Phrag-Plus
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Non-labelled or mislabelled plants Identification….
Many times I’ve seen pictures of those plants on this forum and it’s always lead to good discussion... It is a good exercise... But it is always difficult to identify Phragmipedium hybrids that way... Even if the flower look like a well know cross the real phylogeny could be different.
Primary hybrids are easier but as far as we are going in the complex ones, it is more difficult to get the right identification. With experience, we can recognize characters but there is always the unexpected to break the rules...
I would like to show you what I'm talking about, the range of the gene expression we can found in one cross and this from the same seedpod.
Here is Phragmipedium Jean Troalen (LesDirouilles x caricinum) from my own hybridization program.
Here, you can see the difference between the three plants, first flowering seedlings. Look at the size of the plants, scapes and flowers.... Can you believe they are little brothers?
This picture show the caricinum influence with the down swept petals and larger dots in the pouch. 4%
This one shows the influence of both parents with influence of the LesDirouilles in the shape and size.... 95% with small variations.
This was my unexpected one.... The plant is small caricinum size with the ovary and the pouch of caudatum... Big flower for that little plant...1% Weird!
Let me know what you are thinking about....
Hoping than my English language is understandable...
Enjoy!
Many times I’ve seen pictures of those plants on this forum and it’s always lead to good discussion... It is a good exercise... But it is always difficult to identify Phragmipedium hybrids that way... Even if the flower look like a well know cross the real phylogeny could be different.
Primary hybrids are easier but as far as we are going in the complex ones, it is more difficult to get the right identification. With experience, we can recognize characters but there is always the unexpected to break the rules...
I would like to show you what I'm talking about, the range of the gene expression we can found in one cross and this from the same seedpod.
Here is Phragmipedium Jean Troalen (LesDirouilles x caricinum) from my own hybridization program.
Here, you can see the difference between the three plants, first flowering seedlings. Look at the size of the plants, scapes and flowers.... Can you believe they are little brothers?
This picture show the caricinum influence with the down swept petals and larger dots in the pouch. 4%
This one shows the influence of both parents with influence of the LesDirouilles in the shape and size.... 95% with small variations.
This was my unexpected one.... The plant is small caricinum size with the ovary and the pouch of caudatum... Big flower for that little plant...1% Weird!
Let me know what you are thinking about....
Hoping than my English language is understandable...
Enjoy!