On the matter of CITES protecting orchids. Its easy to say that people in other countries are to blame for the mass pillaging of orchids in the wild. Sure blame people in the EU, USA etc. Its bull however. I spent a decade living in SE Asian and the bulk of wild orchids are sold to locals. The internal markers for many countries like China, Thailand Malaysia etc far exceed what is exported. That said the borders in the region are so porous and CITES can do very very little to prevent flows from Vietnam to Thailand, Malaysia to Thailand, Burma, China. Its very hard to police. On top of this, it is totally legal to collect plants in China as long as they are not in national parks. So if countries dont have laws in place to protect plants internally, its not going to help much is it? The reality is unless countries really want to protect what they have, shut down the internal markets, it wont make a dent in the problem of illegal collection. Cry about exports to overseas, but its s drop in the bucket.