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cnycharles said:
one point, all joking aside; it's a fact that I read an account of a test by the navy way back when, in some book or article in the late 70's or 80's. much testing was being done for ships and planes, many which were disasters. but, just like there should be a grain of salt being applied when reading about any 'facts' on the internet; just because someone wrote a book that stated something interesting, doesn't mean that it was a fact. I also read many books of my brother's that highly exclaimed all sorts of weird humanistic things, bermuda triangle effects, all sorts of interesting but highly speculative things. unless there is a document showing the plans and construction of such a craft like the ark then stories either for or against it don't really prove anything
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Ah, ok, so perhaps the U.S. Navy didn't actually build an exact replica of 'the ark' from the description in The Bible, after all, nor deem it to be "very extremely unsinkable" as you first declared. :wink:


cnycharles said:
we all believe what we will believe, and it's not likely that any will change. thankfully there are places where we can say what we believe without being arrested. with the 'new spring' spreading across the globe, soon many places will not allow the sharing or exchange of different beliefs. you will either be part of the spring, or you will die or be arrested etc.
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Indeed, we all believe what we will believe. Some of us are willing to change our minds when faced with new facts and evidence... others not so much. I've heard of no "new spring" spreading across the globe which inherently denies the free exchange of ideas. There is the Arab Spring, of course, but perhaps that is not the spring to which you refer. I've seen the supporters of the Arab Spring freely sharing and exchanging quite a lot on Twitter. I am confident, whatever the case may be, that not all quests for the freedom of a people and not all movements to end a system of political oppression will simply result in new and even more sinister systems of oppression and suffering. I firmly believe in the power of the spirit of hope and the innate ability of mankind to progress to ever-higher levels of social reasoning and functionality. Change often brings freedom, even if the path can sometimes be somewhat circuitous. The spirit of mankind inevitably and relentlessly demands liberty and justice. :)

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Here's a cute little joke which doesn't slam union workers nor scabs-in-training:

The manager of a large office noticed a new man one day and told him to come into his office. "What is your name?" was the first thing the manager asked him.

"John," the new guy replied.

The manager scowled, "Look, I don't know what kind of a namby-pamby place you worked at before, but I don't call anyone by their first name. It breeds familiarity, and that leads to a breakdown in authority! I refer to ALL my employees by their last name only - Smith, Jones, Baker - that's all, and I am to be referred to only as Mr. Robertson. Now that we got that straight, what is your last name, young man?"

The new guy sighed and said, "Darling. My name is John Darling."

"Okay, John, the next thing I want to tell you is..."
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I had read that the legends of the Great Flood were based on the formation of the Black Sea about 8,000 years ago or so. The meltwater from the glaciers had been backed up by some sort of a dam that broke. A similar event occurred in North America, in the Pacific Northwest, although the result wasn't as big as the Black sea.
 
Lanmark said:
Ah, ok, so perhaps the U.S. Navy didn't actually build an exact replica of 'the ark' from the description in The Bible, after all, nor deem it to be "very extremely unsinkable" as you first declared. :wink:
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well, I actually wrote that last, to eliminate a lot of back and forth about whether or not an ark had actually existed millennia ago, or if the navy had tested a possible design based on the ark's described dimensions. I completely did read somewhere that the navy had tested such a structure, but I openly admit that a book doesn't necessarily have truth in it, just like many web pages don't have truth in them. as I pointed out, either seeing a formal set of plans, or a press release from a navy office somewhere either saying that this was or wasn't built, was the only way to provide 'proof'. anyone can say this or that, but unless proof is provided then I or anyone can say whatever they want, or point to any web page, and it doesn't really mean a thing. I was being somewhat magnanimous in conceding the 'proof' point.

I meant the arab spring, but didn't want to get people thinking I was against arabic or muslim people. I assumed that people would understand what I meant. I have heard of quite a bit of new oppression against christian people in all countries that the arab spring has occurred, and anyone that isn't muslim has been oppressed. sunni's and other groups have also been targeted. you of course won't read this in any main-stream media, because they could care less if some christians in a far-off land are being killed or threatened to change to islam (just like what happened in bosnia and nearby when the ottomans conquered the area, and forced all to convert to islam. don't tell me it didn't happen that way, because the bosnians and serbs i've worked with would say otherwise)

lanmark, I admire your enthusiasm and wish it worked that way, meaning mankind 'wants' to be onwards and upwards, but.... we'll see. usually trouble leads to someone usurping a movement and tailoring it to their own wants regardless of what was intended at the start
 
Charles, I'm not sure what you mean by the "main stream media." I watch CBS, NBC, PBS, and some of the smaller affiliates. I'm aware that whatever is the minority religion in just about any country, it tends to be oppressed -- sometimes more severely than other times. But even within the major religions, whether Muslim or Christian, there is hatred toward anyone who doesn't believe (or look) like them. So Muslim sects vs. Muslim sects & Christians against Christians. And everyone hates non-theists.

There is so much hate that is based on religious differences, and so much of faith is based on myth and misinterpretation. That's why I had to question your story about the ark. I did think you were referring to the story I linked to -- that was not intended to be a joke.
 
As Dot noted, Charles, religious discrimination is all too common today around the world. This is nothing new. It's been going on for a very long time. Contrary to what you believe, the mainstream media HAS, in fact, extensively reported on these problems as they have occurred within the context of the Arab Spring.

As John Lennon wrote and sang,

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

______________________________

I sincerely hope you'll join us! :)
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cnycharles said:
lanmark, I admire your enthusiasm and wish it worked that way, meaning mankind 'wants' to be onwards and upwards, but.... we'll see. usually trouble leads to someone usurping a movement and tailoring it to their own wants regardless of what was intended at the start
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I'm still happy whenever I see an oppressed people make a stand for freedom, because if no one ever stood up for freedom, there'd be no freedom on earth today! It's better to try and fail, try and fail again, and then finally try and succeed than to never have tried at all. Fear is a powerful motivator to do absolutely nothing! :(
 
I said to my girlfriend, "Please get me a newspaper."

"Don't be silly," she replied, "you can borrow my iPad."
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...That fly never knew what f*cking hit it.
 
SlipperFan said:
There is so much hate that is based on religious differences, and so much of faith is based on myth and misinterpretation. That's why I had to question your story about the ark. I did think you were referring to the story I linked to -- that was not intended to be a joke.
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sorry, wasn't around last night

fair enough; i'm sure that it was a misunderstanding. though, anyone that really knows me knows that i would never be making a misinterpretation like that. the navy testing a real copy of the ark is pretty simple. back to orchids!
:)


a duck walks into a restaurant and says, 'i'm exhausted and starving from all that flying north and south.... give me a steak and some fries'. the waiter says, 'don't be silly; we don't serve food to ducks in here!' 'okay..', says the duck; 'then bring me a beer'
 
cnycharles said:
anyone that really knows me knows that i would never be making a misinterpretation like that. the navy testing a real copy of the ark is pretty simple.
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...except for the fact that it never actually happened... :wink:


Q: What animal could Noah not trust?
A: The Cheetah.
:p
 
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Lanmark said:
...except for the fact that it never actually happened... :wink:
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:rollhappy: :rollhappy: I see a fish hook, but i'm not biting ;)

now, you said that 'someone' was 'baiting you' when they spoke about 'poorly performing socialistic revolutions'.. that you couldn't resist speaking forth.

your above seems like baiting to me :) keep trying. either the fisherman has to have something really appealing to draw the fish, or be alot smarter than the fish.... .... .... all I see is an empty hook ;)

SIL, LGO

Q: Why does a pitcher raise one leg when he pitches?
A: Because if he raised both legs, he'd fall down
 
cnycharles said:
I see a fish hook, but i'm not biting
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I was just stating the facts. No hook. :)

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A pirate walked into a bar and the bartender said, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened? You look terrible."

"What do you mean?" said the pirate, "I feel fine."

"What about the wooden leg? You didn't have that before."

"Well, we were in a battle and I got hit with a cannon ball, but I'm fine now."

"Well, ok, but what about that hook? "What happened to your hand?"

"We were in another battle. I boarded a ship and got into a sword fight. My hand was cut off. I got fitted with a hook. I'm fine, really."

"What about that eye patch?"

"Oh, one day we were at sea and a flock of birds flew over. I looked up and one of them crapped in my eye."

"You're kidding," said the bartender, "you couldn't lose an eye just from some bird sh*t."

"It was my first day with the hook."

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How do you crown the winner of the worlds procrastinator championship?


FYI.... Only clean joke I know.... So there you have it!
 
Not sure this is a joke:
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Put all the old people in jail!
WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!!....

Here's the way it should be: Let's put the seniors in jail and the criminals in nursing homes.

This would correct two things in one motion:

Seniors would have access to showers, hobbies and walks.

They would receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical Treatment, wheel chairs, etc.

They would receive money instead of having to pay it out.

They would have constant video monitoring, so they would be helped instantly... If they fell or needed assistance.

Bedding would be washed twice a week and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

A guard would check on them every 20 minutes.

All meals and snacks would be brought to them.

They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

They would have access to a library, weight/fitness room, spiritual counseling, a pool and education..and free admission to in-house concerts by nationally recognized entertainment artists.

Simple clothing - i.e.. Shoes, slippers, pj's - and legal aid would be free , upon request.

There would be private, secure rooms provided for all with an outdoor exercise yard complete with gardens.

Each senior would have a P.C., T.V., phone and radio in their room at no cost .

They would receive daily phone calls.

There would be a board of directors to hear any complaints.

The guards would have a code of conduct to be strictly adhered to, with attorneys available, at no charge to protect the seniors and their families from abuse or neglect.



As for the criminals: They would receive cold food.

They would be left alone and unsupervised.

They would receive showers once a week.

They would live in tiny rooms, for which they would

have to pay $5,000 per month.

They would have no hope of ever getting out.
 

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