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cyps in pots 2014
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If you plan to mulch the pots before covering them with burlap and plastic, no problem. The secret is to keep the plants rather dry and cool for winter. You don't want them to stay in ice sheet. Under some weather conditions, mulch can be compact, very wet and "full of ice blocks". If there is no snow cover over it, it can be very cold on the pots. Also, even hardy plants can die if they stay under ice in winter.
I don't know a lot about your winters. I guess they are colder than ours, very windy, somewhat less snowy. Which Canadian zone is your garden?
But what I know is that you can do miracle with hardiness zone if you are careful with protection.
You must protect the plants only after several hard frosts. Here, I do this in mid or late November. I guess early to mid Nov would be OK for you. The burlap must be dry for good insulation. Try to chose an area protected from the winds and where snow cover is good. The protection must always be light color to avoid overheating during warmer days of winter... I guess you know what I mean... That is why white is the best choice. And don't forget Mickey Mouse...
I don't know a lot about your winters. I guess they are colder than ours, very windy, somewhat less snowy. Which Canadian zone is your garden?
But what I know is that you can do miracle with hardiness zone if you are careful with protection.
You must protect the plants only after several hard frosts. Here, I do this in mid or late November. I guess early to mid Nov would be OK for you. The burlap must be dry for good insulation. Try to chose an area protected from the winds and where snow cover is good. The protection must always be light color to avoid overheating during warmer days of winter... I guess you know what I mean... That is why white is the best choice. And don't forget Mickey Mouse...
No pictures....:sob:
Leo Schordje
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I need to try a Lucy Pinkepank, it looks outstanding. All your Cyps are outstanding. I've had some thoughts on what to do next winter, if I have success I'll post the results. Silence, means I failed.
Not trying to hijack this thread.
I don't think cold alone is an issue, even for Cyps from more southern climates like Cyp kentuckiensis and Cyp californiacum. Bill Steele is a part time commercial cyp breeder in far northwestern Minnesota, zone 3. (he has had temps as low as -42 F). He winters his cyps outdoors in his large prepared beds. I believe he does use hardware cloth (mesh) to protect from rodents. He has a lot of growing info on his webpage. He too uses a mix for his pots that is mostly perlite. http://www.spanglecreeklabs.com/index.html
Not trying to hijack this thread.
I don't think cold alone is an issue, even for Cyps from more southern climates like Cyp kentuckiensis and Cyp californiacum. Bill Steele is a part time commercial cyp breeder in far northwestern Minnesota, zone 3. (he has had temps as low as -42 F). He winters his cyps outdoors in his large prepared beds. I believe he does use hardware cloth (mesh) to protect from rodents. He has a lot of growing info on his webpage. He too uses a mix for his pots that is mostly perlite. http://www.spanglecreeklabs.com/index.html
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Leo - good luck with your project.
One of the thing people do not talk about much with cyps in pots of perlite is the advantage of not needing to repot much.
They do not like repotting or moving and I reckon that they take 2 years to settle down to grow quickly again.
If you overpot in perlite you can safely leave then for 5 years during which they have time to really get a head of steam and grow big,
Regards,
David
Leo - good luck with your project.
One of the thing people do not talk about much with cyps in pots of perlite is the advantage of not needing to repot much.
They do not like repotting or moving and I reckon that they take 2 years to settle down to grow quickly again.
If you overpot in perlite you can safely leave then for 5 years during which they have time to really get a head of steam and grow big,
Regards,
David
Hi David,
You leave your pots in the garage for the winter. Do you water them at all between late October and late Feb?
Marcus
watering
Marcus,
I don't think it matters much. Most years I don't give them anything, occasionally I do. I cannot see any difference between the two,
David
Marcus,
I don't think it matters much. Most years I don't give them anything, occasionally I do. I cannot see any difference between the two,
David
It depends on how big your pots ar and how long the plants have been in them.
I use big pots - mostly at least 3 litre so they dry out very slowly,
David
I use big pots - mostly at least 3 litre so they dry out very slowly,
David
Though I bury mine in leaves for the winter (no garage), I do put mine in garbage bags, which does help to prevent excessive drying. You might want to do that.
Hi Linus_Cello,
I am also in DC area. You put the pots in the garbage bags and tie the bags, right? Will this prevent the air circulation for the roots? Do they need that? Is the only air inside the plastic bags enough for the whole winter?
Marcus
I am also in DC area. You put the pots in the garbage bags and tie the bags, right? Will this prevent the air circulation for the roots? Do they need that? Is the only air inside the plastic bags enough for the whole winter?
Marcus
I think there's enough circulation since the media is very rocky. From: http://www.gardensatposthill.com/website/Cypripedium overview.htm
In raising Cypripedium seedlings, the only difference fro tropical orchids is that Cypripedium must have winter. The easiest way to provide winter for potted plants is to make sure the medium is moist but not wet, then to place the pot into a plastic bag and into the refrigerator for 4 months (5 months is better for most Asian species except for Cypripedium formosanum which comes from a warmer climate). Make sure the pot is placed where the seedlings will not freeze and thaw. Alternatively, pots may be placed in an unheated garage or other area where temperatures will not change rapidly.
You're welcome.
You should come to the paph forum. Too bad you didn't go this past February, we had Ron Burch speak on cyps. I don't think next year's PF will have a cyp presenter.
http://ncos.us/ncos/paph.htm
You should come to the paph forum. Too bad you didn't go this past February, we had Ron Burch speak on cyps. I don't think next year's PF will have a cyp presenter.
http://ncos.us/ncos/paph.htm
NYEric
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Help!
I got 3 large Cyps and some inorganic media from TG@PH. I want to put them in pots, but cannot cool the pots down in the apartment. I was going to just put them outside in the garden but now all this talk has me worried about water getting to them. Should I pot them up, water and feed once, them put them in bags outside?
I got 3 large Cyps and some inorganic media from TG@PH. I want to put them in pots, but cannot cool the pots down in the apartment. I was going to just put them outside in the garden but now all this talk has me worried about water getting to them. Should I pot them up, water and feed once, them put them in bags outside?
Depends on the Cyps. The chinese cyps need to be more dry in the winter. North American cyps are ok with more moisture.
Yes, I would pot them, water (I don't think you need to feed now), put them in a bag, and bury them in leaves.
Yes, I would pot them, water (I don't think you need to feed now), put them in a bag, and bury them in leaves.
NYEric
Well-Known Member
I can't bury the pots, should I insulate (wrap) them?
What about the community garden you use?
NYEric
Well-Known Member
Hmm, OK, I will do that tomorrow.
