WBW Mystery

[DrLeslieEe]

I bought this as Wosner Black Wings… looks a bit strange with the horizontal petals… so I’m investigating more with seller. Very dark flowers on a huge plant.

I’m open to ideas.

NS 21 cm, DSW 6.5 cm

 

[LadySlipper]

What a stunning orchid. I like that there is a light colored orchid image behind it.

 

[monocotman]

Absolutely stunning Leslie. Could it be a pure roth?
Whatever it is, it’s a keeper.

 

[Royal Rea]

Could be something like a dark Paph. Sunlight Rothschild or a similar cross, or another roth on to it. I don't think it is a straight roth.

 

[Duck Slipper]

Well, it is a hybrid…it will express the traits of both parents. Some traits more than others. I don’t think it is a Roth or an adductum, but it is a hybrid of both. Because of that, it doesn’t look like the WBW we want it to look like. All kinds of genetic variability with a straight Roth seedling and this is a hybrid!

 

[tnyr5]

It's probably either a sib cross, or WBW x roth. Either way, that staminode offends me...

 

[Tony]

It's probably either a sib cross, or WBW x roth. Either way, that staminode offends me...

Same thing I said in the original thread lol

 

[DrLeslieEe]

You people amuse me lol.

I found a code on the pot that the seller will check on. So it’s now a waiting game.

 

[tnyr5]

Much better...

 

[DrLeslieEe]

modesty censorship.

 

[TyroneGenade]

rothschildianum x Rangifer tarandus var nasusrubra

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Must be a relative of the tarantula clan .

 

[eds]

If it's a WBW x WBW sib cross it could just be at the Roth end of the spectrum that could be achieved as an F2 (or further) sibling cross.

There's a picture on Orchid Roots that has some similarities. (The actual photo links to a Facebook page)

Paphiopedilum Wössner Black Wings

orchidroots.com

 

[DrLeslieEe]

If it's a WBW x WBW sib cross it could just be at the Roth end of the spectrum that could be achieved as an F2 (or further) sibling cross.

There's a picture on Orchid Roots that has some similarities. (The actual photo links to a Facebook page)

Paphiopedilum Wössner Black Wings

orchidroots.com

This is a higher possibility … an F2 coming from the anitum line can inherit the horizontal petals of the roths. Good point Eds.

 

[Ray]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is spectacular.

 

[richgarrison]

what's the petal width? looks wide!

 

[JayeL]

Stunning, stunning flower!! Colour, solid dark pouch, petal width, it ticks the boxes!!... I hope you can figure out what it is?

I can't help thinking that this crossed onto a black/dark godefroyae or bellatulum would give HS Wild Cat a run for its money.

JL

 

[DrLeslieEe]

what's the petal width? looks wide!

I retook the measurements and looks like my initial measurements were 'hopeful' lol. Here are the 'real' sizes:

NS 18 cm
DSW 5.5 cm
DSL 5 cm
PW 2 cm
PL 9.5 cm
SynW 5 cm
SynL 4 cm

Petal lengths of the awarded WBW is twice the size of the current one at 16-18 cm. Seems like this flower is short on the lengths even compared to awarded roths at 13-18 cm. Yet it seems like a well-balanced flower with wider petals than either of those listed (1.3-1.8 cm range). The dorsal sepal is almost a round as the synsepal, which forms a nice frame for the pouch.

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Stunning, stunning flower!! Colour, solid dark pouch, petal width, it ticks the boxes!!... I hope you can figure out what it is?

I can't help thinking that this crossed onto a black/dark godefroyae or bellatulum would give HS Wild Cat a run for its money.

JL

Interesting idea. I looked at the pics of the HS Wild Cat and found one from OrchidRoot below that is stunning.



Now, I rarely like any hybrids and this one calls to my curiosity (much like how Rolfei peeked my interest back to paphs).

Perhaps I can use the leucochilum 'Blackest Knight' pollen on it if there is a majority support from the members here who are willing to grow them out as an experiment, I might just take the plunge?

Any takers?

 

[eds]

Any takers?

If I could get them to the UK I'd happily grow some out!