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DrLeslieEe

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So… I’m waiting forever for these two buds to open. I think they started in late November and taking their sweet sweet time to develop.

A game. Guess what species these two are?

Clues:

First one is related to the insigne alliance (pics 1-2).

The second one has a mythological cultivar name (pics 3-5).

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More hints:

1. First one is very hairy and grows on trees sometimes. From Indo-China area.
2. Second one is from Vietnam and grows on limestone cliffs.
3. Both have white dorsals.
 
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Still not those two GP.

More clues:

First one is red form of the species that has about 5 different varieties.

Second one I named last year after a Greek monster.
 
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