Shun Fa Golden vs Norito Hasegawa

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    Bob in Albany N.Y.

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    I just bloomed what was suppose to be a Norito Hasegawa but it has hairs on the petals. Doesn't that mean it is a Shun Fa Golden? Also the color is not as bright as other norito that I have seen. I do however realize that all norito's are not a bright yellow and some may be greenish from the malipoense. Thoughts?
     
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    Have you got a photo, Bob?
     
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    Sorry I don't have a photo. Maybe I should have approached this topic by just asking if Norito Hasegawa ever has hairs on the petals?
     
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    That's above my pay grade, sorry.
     
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    If i's really fuzzy its probably a hangianum hybrid. :eek:
     
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    Here is a Norito Hasegawa of mine that is blooming right now.

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    Not only is it not yellow, or really green even (!) it is somewhat fuzzy.
    I do no believe it has any hangianum in it because the inflorescence is very tall, and the leaves are what you would expect from malipoense x armeniacum in shape and color, not what you'd expect from a hangianum cross.

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    Bob in Albany N.Y.

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    Thanks, that answers my question,so yes Norito Hasegawa can have hairs on the petals.
     
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    by the way, I would expect the leaves to be different too.
    Shunfa Golden will have a smoother upper surface , wavy leaf (from partly hangianum) and vein patterns should be less prominent
    Norito Hasegawa will have prominents pattern from malipoense & armeniacum, and the surface should be rougher.
    Here are the 2 plants with leaves photos on ebay from springwater & Laorchidjohn for comparison
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paph-Shun-...g:q50AAOSw7C5cMinv:rk:2:pf:0&autorefresh=true
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/YELLOW-PAR...h=item56be606459:g:j74AAOSwZKlcNB5L:rk:1:pf:0
     
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    The leaf pattern is a good indicator.
     

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