Phrag. Papa Frankie Quintal (Haley Decker x kovachii)

[abax]

The shape is much improved, but the deep pink-magenta color is lost on
this particular bloom. That's sort of sad. This one looks to have much
more red on my monitor.

 

[JeanLux]

Great color and shape; I like it a lot !!!! Jean

 

[phraggy]

Now that's what I call a real cracker!!
Great shape and colour.

Ed

 

[monocotman]

Just stunning.
We're waiting with baited breath for the release of these in Europe.
Hopefully Ratcliffe's will have a few seedlings from the EYOF sometime soon
David

 

[orchid527]

FYI, the Piping Rock website has these for $159.95 NBS, no discounts.

Mike

 

[Bjorn]

Robert, I have some (5+?) seedlings of this cross, but they have been poor growers. any cultural advices?
B

 

[Drorchid]

Robert, I have some (5+?) seedlings of this cross, but they have been poor growers. any cultural advices?
B

We grow our kovachii or kovachii crosses in straight dolomite and have them sit in saucers with water, or in an eb and flow system. The kovachii crosses can also be grown in in orchiata mix, mixed with growstone or some perlite, but keep them pretty moist and make sure the mix doesn't get to acidic (they prefer it neutral to somewhat alkaline).

Hope this helps.
Robert

 

[NYEric]

FYI, the Piping Rock website has these for $159.95 NBS, no discounts.

Mike

Yeah, they are pricey. I have some Pk hybrids but I will wait some until the price goes down a bit or buy one at a time slowly as my bank will allow. Also, everyone is ranting about the shape of the gen 2 Pk hybrids but I miss the huge pumpkin size blooms of the gen 1 hybrids!
BTW, when the first generation of Pk hybrids come out I had a Pk x Sunset Glow. I lost the plant and never saw another. Does anyone have or know what happened to this hybrid?

 

[Drorchid]

Yeah, they are pricey. I have some Pk hybrids but I will wait some until the price goes down a bit or buy one at a time slowly as my bank will allow. Also, everyone is ranting about the shape of the gen 2 Pk hybrids but I miss the huge pumpkin size blooms of the gen 1 hybrids!
BTW, when the first generation of Pk hybrids come out I had a Pk x Sunset Glow. I lost the plant and never saw another. Does anyone have or know what happened to this hybrid?

Don't worry, when I cross generation 2 PK hybrids back to PK to get 3rd generation PK hybrids, the huge Pumpking size will return I already crossed Phrag. Robert-Jan Quene back onto Phrag. kovachii and it took! It will be very similar to Phrag. Fritz Schomburg, but probably have more kovachii influence. I also crossed that dark Phrag. Emma Lommen back onto kovachii, which will hopefully create some purples, be larger in size than Emma Lommen, and rounder and better shaped than kovachii.

And to answer your other question, I believe we still have some Sunset Glow's x kovachii, but no one has registered that cross yet, so I don't think anyone has bloomed it yet.

Robert

 

[Erythrone]

Robert, do you have pics of other Phrags Papa Frankie Quintal ?

 

[MorandiWine]

A kovachii hybrid that I actually like!!

Yeah kovachii! Besseae too

tyler

 

[NYEric]

Don't worry, when I cross generation 2 PK hybrids back to PK to get 3rd generation PK hybrids, the huge Pumpking size will return ..And to answer your other question, I believe we still have some Sunset Glow's x kovachii, but no one has registered that cross yet, so I don't think anyone has bloomed it yet.
Robert

Thanks for the info. When I finally get to visit OL there's going to be a FIESTA!!!

Yeah kovachii! Besseae too

tyler

Lawsuit buddy!! oke:

 

[MorandiWine]

Sorry Eric ......

 

[Bjorn]

We grow our kovachii or kovachii crosses in straight dolomite and have them sit in saucers with water, or in an eb and flow system. The kovachii crosses can also be grown in in orchiata mix, mixed with growstone or some perlite, but keep them pretty moist and make sure the mix doesn't get to acidic (they prefer it neutral to somewhat alkaline).

Hope this helps.
Robert

Thanks a lot Robert; when you say dolomite, that means dolomite (ie the mineral, the double-carbonate?) gravel? I have personally been growing kovachii and hybrids in mainly marble gravel, but if dolomite gravel is better then I'll repot into that. Any wiews to that?
Another thing; I have a few Rosalie dixler x kovachii that have been growing well and are getting NBS now. Any idea of what to expect?
Bjørn

 

[NYEric]

Sorry Eric ......

OK. I will put the lawyers back in their cages.

 

[NYEric]

Another thing; I have a few Rosalie dixler x kovachii that have been growing well and are getting NBS now. Any idea of what to expect?
Bjørn

Something that looks like LaVingtaine?

 

[Drorchid]

Robert, do you have pics of other Phrags Papa Frankie Quintal ?

No, this is the first one that we bloomed, but if you do a google search there is a picture of one more on-line (From Quintal Farms).

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...a=X&ei=daGoUpHkIu_lygHNqIDQBA&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAQ

Robert

 

[Drorchid]

Thanks a lot Robert; when you say dolomite, that means dolomite (ie the mineral, the double-carbonate?) gravel? I have personally been growing kovachii and hybrids in mainly marble gravel, but if dolomite gravel is better then I'll repot into that. Any wiews to that?
Another thing; I have a few Rosalie dixler x kovachii that have been growing well and are getting NBS now. Any idea of what to expect?
Bjørn

Sorry I said dolomite, but I meant Diatomite gravel.

Rosalie Dixler x kovachii should be very similar to Phrag. La Vingtaine (M.D. Clements x kovachii)...just noticed that Eric already mentioned that

Here is some more info for kovachii and kovachii hybrid culture:
(Click on Care Information):
https://www.orchidweb.com/products/phrag-kovachii~836.html

Robert

 

[SlipperFan]

Robert, by "gravel" do you mean the fine stuff? Or the small chunks?

 

[Drorchid]

Robert, by "gravel" do you mean the fine stuff? Or the small chunks?

small chunks

Robert