barbigerum
helenae?
Can you post a picture of the other parent? How much did helenae influence the size?
I took a (Pacific Shamrock x helenae) to judging and they were afraid to point it. It was AM quality IMHO. I'm guessing Pam Guist would say these should not be at judging w/o paperwork. Exhibitor beware.
-Ernie
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