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OK I have a new primary cross for you guys to guess:



I saw a slide of this primary cross duiring a talk I went to a few years ago. I thought it was so cool that I had to remake the cross. The first one from this cross bloomed this weekend. I will post the answer in a few days.

Robert
 
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I really can't figure out the parents of this one - I can see cochlopetalum and that's about it-
 

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bellatulum x moquettianum (Charles Sladden). Or close.

It is a hard cross though... A lot of those are going to seriously suck. And a few will be amazing, so it is worth it.
 
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I never guess at these because I am not very good at them, but I am going to give this a try.

I guess bellatulum x henryanum.
 
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You guys are on the right track with one of the parents......but you haven't guessed the other one yet.

Here is another picture (taken from the side).



Robert
 

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My guess would be adductum x bellatulum, or supardii x bellatulum.
color is great, form is a little bit open & twisted, it may straighten out on subsequent bloomings.
 

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I agree with Leo on the first one. Dark color, downswept petals, lots of multilfloral influence all of which I could only see coming from adductum or anitum (which I doubt you breed with). The only brachy that dark would have to be bellatulum.

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I will buck the trend and guess bellatulum x callosum var. viniferum!

Do you happen to have a shot showing a front view of the staminode?

--Stephen
 
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Maybe bellatulum x rothschildianum or bellatulum x philippinense?
 

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Could it be Paph Paris (bellatulum x stonei)? The dorsal drooping over the pouch reminds me of stonei. Either that or bellatulum x kolopakingii.
 
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the red overlay probably from bellatulum

the base green colour makes me think adductum... (only because, the roths would probably have dorsal more horizontal, and philippinense would have a browner pouch.

so,

bellatulum x adductum
 

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Gordon currently has a Charles Sladden in flower so I can say that, yes, this flower looks similar. It was my first "off the cuff" guess - not too confident on guessing the proper parentage of this one though.

The earlier guess of Paph Paris sounds close when I think on the side profile shot.

Cheers
Stephan
 
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OK here is the answer:

Paph. Weltz Ballad (Paph. adductum x Paph. bellatulum)

:clap: :clap: to many people who guessed the right cross.

Would you guys like me to post some more primary crosses for you to guess?
I can even make it more difficult and post a picture of a cross between two primaries and make you guess the 4 parents that were involved in the cross.

Robert
 

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