Early K-lite results
- Thread starter dodidoki
- Start date
Help Support Slippertalk Orchid Forum:
At what equivalent nitrogen concentrations are you all applying the K-Lite, and how frequently ?
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2009
- Messages
- 3,802
- Reaction score
- 4,149
14% N ( 7 % NO3, 3,5% Urea, 3,5% NH4),
TDS all: 130-140 ppm, ( I use RO water for fert. solution, TDS 5-6 ppm), N total is about 20-21 ppm. I use it every third waterings, I water once / week.
emydura
Well-Known Member
So you fertilise once every 3 weeks?
wjs2nd
Well-Known Member
Intreresting results.
I water every 3 days and use the k-lite (at 100ppm) every other watering. I added kelpmax every 2 weeks (every 5th watering to be exact).
I water every 3 days and use the k-lite (at 100ppm) every other watering. I added kelpmax every 2 weeks (every 5th watering to be exact).
I have been using it at 50 ppm N at every watering for the last year. I have a Paph Cheryl Ann Boyd I got from Theresa Hill last spring in-bloom. It is in bloom again, in the same pot, and I swear the flower is easily 50% bigger. I have noted similar improvements with others, but that one is just SUCH an improvement, that it stands out.
Billy,
Is that 100 ppm N or 100 ppm total dissolved solids once you add the K-Lite?
Is that 100 ppm N or 100 ppm total dissolved solids once you add the K-Lite?
Last edited:
Ray,
Are you using it for semi-hydro irrigation as well?
Are you using it for semi-hydro irrigation as well?
Rick
Well-Known Member
For fall/winter I've been using 30-50ppm N once a week (3-7 waterings a week depending on mounted, basket, or traditional potted).
On some extended cloudy cool weeks I skip the weekly big feeding and just give daily or EOD feedings 5ppm N.
On some extended cloudy cool weeks I skip the weekly big feeding and just give daily or EOD feedings 5ppm N.
wjs2nd
Well-Known Member
Hi Tom,
I use distilled water and add 100 ppm of N to my water. I'm not sure what the TDS of the distilled water is, but should be very low. Here is my watering schedule:
water
water + fertilizer
water
water + fertilizer + kelpmax.
Correction to past post, I add kelpmax every 4th watering not 5th.
Thanks for the info. We just started changing over to K-Lite and I'm planning to alternate watering with plain water (70% R/O + 30% Lake Michigan - Chicago water) with a TDS reading of 80-90 ppm, and plain water + K-L fertilizer @ 70 ppm equivalent N conc. Watering schedule will vary with the season, ranging from once weekly to twice weekly.
Last edited:
Everything, Tom. S/H, bark, sphagnum, baskets sans any medium, mounted.
Hello:
I would try giving results K-lite, shame that in my country can not find these fertilizers.
I would like you give me the opinion of a fertilizer 5-0-1 with 7% Ca
It doesn´t containe P or neither Mg, I added Mg as epson salt (what proportion to the necessary?)
That problem you see in the absence of P? and how could I fix it.
greetings
I would try giving results K-lite, shame that in my country can not find these fertilizers.
I would like you give me the opinion of a fertilizer 5-0-1 with 7% Ca
It doesn´t containe P or neither Mg, I added Mg as epson salt (what proportion to the necessary?)
That problem you see in the absence of P? and how could I fix it.
greetings
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2009
- Messages
- 3,802
- Reaction score
- 4,149
K-lite formula is not available in my country, too. I solved this problem by mixing fertilizers.
Eg.:
one part 27% N solution ( 2:1:1 NO3:urea:NH4)
two parts 21% Ca /10% N
4 parts 4% Mg ( 1/3 celated/So4)
1,5 part N
:k + micros (10/10/8 %)Epsom is hydrated ( hepta) formula, if you solve 100g in 150 g distilled water, you will have 4% Mg solution.
Last edited:
Rick
Well-Known Member
This isn't a bad mix.
you could add a pinch of bone meal to your potting mix for phosphorus (that's calcium phosphate).
Horticulturists used bone meal for Ca and PO4 and blood meal for nitrogen for probably over a hundred years before we came up with these high tech inorganic fertilizers. Those materials were probably in use by orchid growers in the 1800's.
Hello:
Thanks dodidoki and Rick for the reply!
I buy it, and I just add these two elements to look like a K-lite home
I´m reading and in canna forums, recommend a drug to add P. The composition :
This medicine is: For 100 ml: Disodium phosphate dodecahydrate, 3.2 g, sodium dihydrogen phosphate, 13.9 g
And in the same forum recommend these amounts: 2 liters of water + 1 cc drug = 65 ppm PO4.
They think of this?.
The mg, which would add to the epson
Thanks again.
Thanks dodidoki and Rick for the reply!
I buy it, and I just add these two elements to look like a K-lite home
I´m reading and in canna forums, recommend a drug to add P. The composition :
This medicine is: For 100 ml: Disodium phosphate dodecahydrate, 3.2 g, sodium dihydrogen phosphate, 13.9 g
And in the same forum recommend these amounts: 2 liters of water + 1 cc drug = 65 ppm PO4.
They think of this?.
The mg, which would add to the epson
Thanks again.
I've been conversing with a K-Lite user who primarily grows cattleyas and a few dendrobiums, down in southwestern Florida. Many are in LECA, others are in bark- or CHC-based media, others are mounted.
She has seen good growth and blooming, but is observing what appears to be premature loss of leaves on back-bulbs. She states that the old leaves turn solid brick red, then pale to yellow, and fall off.
Bill Argo suspects a phosphorus deficiency, and if that's the case, the recommendations here would apply to her.
So my question is "why is she the only one seeing this?"
She has seen good growth and blooming, but is observing what appears to be premature loss of leaves on back-bulbs. She states that the old leaves turn solid brick red, then pale to yellow, and fall off.
Bill Argo suspects a phosphorus deficiency, and if that's the case, the recommendations here would apply to her.
So my question is "why is she the only one seeing this?"
K
keithrs
Guest
What rate is she using? How long has she been using it?
I think 100 ppm N, for about 9 months or so.
Rainfall does a lot of flushing, but that's pretty much a constant down there, and she says the only difference was going from MSURO to K-Lite.
Rainfall does a lot of flushing, but that's pretty much a constant down there, and she says the only difference was going from MSURO to K-Lite.
is she using tons of bark? the whole combination of weather and culture/plants may be burning up more of the fertilizer (though in bark the bacteria or whatever is supposed to burn up n). I thought that there needed to be a little more p; could be that her plants just burn through the fertilizer and grow so quickly/fully that they need more in the very warm and rainy conditions. tons of clear water flushing would seemingly pull nutrients out of the plants, especially if there isn't a ton of extra in the fertilizer
