Phragmipedium Don Wimber ‘Remembrance’

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Gorgeous flowers!

What happend to the black/dark tipped leaves from the plants next to it (sixth picture, third from behind)...did they fall victim to last years heat wave, or, may God forbid, something worse?!
 

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I would say without the common "teeth problem", this one is definitely one of the best Don Wimber plants out there.
 

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Gorgeous flowers!

What happend to the black/dark tipped leaves from the plants next to it (sixth picture, third from behind)...did they fall victim to last years heat wave, or, may God forbid, something worse?!
It was a division given to me by a friend, which got divided up - nothing serious.
 

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what causes the "teeth" problem - i thought it was due to being a 4n plant - is this incorrect?
I hope we are talking about the same thing.
I mean "teeth" problem in the petals, since your plant's flower has no teeth at the petals, it is quite a great bloom.
On the other hand, the teeth at the pouch's rim are let's say "normal" (that feature does not destroy the look of the flower)
I am not sure it is entirely because of 4N (professional growers say it is) because I see 4N of other hybrid crosses without teeth.
I have a suspicion that it has something to do with the previous step before Don Wimber, phrag Eric Young (longifolium x besseae), I have the feeling it is always more prominent with crossing besseae with longifolium species.
Notice many crosses involve Eric Young have the teeth.
https://www.slippertalk.com/threads/phrag-eric-young-x-rosy-charm.9733/

I try to look for a jason fischer 4N with teeth, but it is not prominent,
Breeding besseae x sargentianum does not seems to bring out the teeth

https://www.slippertalk.com/threads/phragmipedium-scarlet-ohara-franceville.33190/
https://www.orchidweb.com/orchids/p...ocket-fire-4n-x-besseae-robs-choice-am-aos-4n

therefore 4N can not be the single reason
 

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Yay besseae hybrids. The teeth on the petals, which this plant doesn't have is common on some plants due certain besseae in their background and can be cause by extra ploidy also. Thanks for sharing
 

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I hope we are talking about the same thing.
I mean "teeth" problem in the petals, since your plant's flower has no teeth at the petals, it is quite a great bloom.
On the other hand, the teeth at the pouch's rim are let's say "normal" (that feature does not destroy the look of the flower)
I am not sure it is entirely because of 4N (professional growers say it is) because I see 4N of other hybrid crosses without teeth.
I have a suspicion that it has something to do with the previous step before Don Wimber, phrag Eric Young (longifolium x besseae), I have the feeling it is always more prominent with crossing besseae with longifolium species.
Notice many crosses involve Eric Young have the teeth.
https://www.slippertalk.com/threads/phrag-eric-young-x-rosy-charm.9733/

I try to look for a jason fischer 4N with teeth, but it is not prominent,
Breeding besseae x sargentianum does not seems to bring out the teeth

https://www.slippertalk.com/threads/phragmipedium-scarlet-ohara-franceville.33190/
https://www.orchidweb.com/orchids/p...ocket-fire-4n-x-besseae-robs-choice-am-aos-4n

therefore 4N can not be the single reason
Thanks for sharing that and the links. couple other phrags also have the odd tooth - i have never looked for a commonality, but i will now!!! i'll feedback pics as and when they flower - thank you.
 

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