PEOY

[Ozpaph]

Two quite different PEOYs. The darker one is Sam's Breeding. The other of Taiwanese breeding and assumed to be PEOY though quite different (unknown parents).

 

[Murray F]

Definitely like Sam's breeding but would keep both

 

[Tom-DE]

If the one from Taiwan is PEOY(I won't bet my money on it), the second one with the dark pouch definitely is a winner by far.

 

[Tony]

The first one does not look right at all for a PEOY. Angel Hair or a similar type of cross seems more likely to me.

 

[emydura]

Both are very nice. The first one doesn't look like a PEOY though.

 

[Ozpaph]

i wonder about some philli in it with the light pouch and reddish petals
The sceptic in me thinks that 'some' sanderianums are MK x sandie, so that could be where the pouch and petal colour come from??

 

[Tom-DE]

i wonder about some philli in it with the light pouch and reddish petals
The sceptic in me thinks that 'some' sanderianums are MK x sandie, so that could be where the pouch and petal colour come from??

Very much it has Paph. philippinense in it...I also think about P. St. Swithin X...
It is not MK X sanderianum(Shin Yi Sanders)...that hybrid doesn't have flowers or leaves like yours.

What is the petal length? Picture of the staminode...

 

[Ozpaph]

I mean rothschildianum x (MK x sandie) ie a 'pseudo' PEOY

 

[Tom-DE]

I don't think rothchilianum would knock down Shin Yi Sanders like that. SYS is almost like a mini sanderianum with shorter petals(20" or longer). Again, what is the petal length?
Based on the flower form, I am thinking St. Swithin X rothchildianum....(Edit: take a look at Shin Yi Pride also, just another direction)

 

[tnyr5]

Some complex thing x sanderianum is probably as good as you'll ever get. My eyes see wilhelminae influence, though.

 

[Tom-DE]

I see wilhelminae or glanduliferum in it as well.

 

[Ozpaph]

petals - 260mm

 

[Tom-DE]

26cm roughly equals 10"--That is a bit short for sanderianum hybrids in general/IMO. My St. Swithin's petals are about that or maybe slightly longer... Good luck with the ID. Eventually, you will find an ID for it.

 

[Ozpaph]

thanks for everyones input

 

[Guldal]

Sam's offspring is gorgeous, Stephen....well, done!