Old time Cattleya warneri concolor

[monocotman]

A plant flowering for the first time for me after maybe three years growth. It’s a division from Hilmar Bauch at Asendorfer bought before the Brexit wall went up.
It won’t win any prizes for shape but I like it. It has character.

Another plant flowering out of season.
David

 

[dodidoki]

Very nice old style caty, but i wonder about its name.Concolor means same color, but it has darker band on its lip.

 

[monocotman]

Istavan, I think in concolors you’re allowed a bit of another colour on the lip provided everything else is the same, but it might just be a paler tipo. The name came from Hilmar.

 

[DrLeslieEe]

Unfortunately it’s not concolor (at this time)*.

Concolor is defined as lip and petals same color pink with no red in front midlobe. A little red stripes in back of throat may be allowed if can’t be seen on frontal view.

So in this case, if the red stripe in front wasn’t there, it would be concolor.

Nonetheless a nice warneri.

* Note: concolors are not always stable. This may bloom without the red stripe next time.

 

[dodidoki]

Unfortunately it’s not concolor (at this time)*.

Concolor is defined as lip and petals same color pink with no red in front midlobe. A little red stripes in back of throat may be allowed if can’t be seen on frontal view.

So in this case, if the red stripe in front wasn’t there, it would be concolor.

Nonetheless a nice warneri.

* Note: concolors are not always stable. This may bloom without the red stripe next time.

The same thing with my gaskelliana concolor..

 

[DrLeslieEe]

In cases like these two, a different color form is used with a further descriptor (is usually required esp. in labiatas) such as semi-concolor purpurea lineata (one line on lip) or purpurea-striata (more lines or veins on lip).

 

[tomp]

The grand old style still rules! NICE

 

[David B]

Agree on the concolor. It may seem a bit over-exacting to point out the dark linear stripe on the lip, but when making a precise description it has to be noted. The same marking has reared itself on this labiata which (Dr.Leslie plant) now is developing a selfing pod. The dark stripe has had varying degrees of intensity on different flowerings.

 

[monocotman]

Thanks everyone, it’s interesting to hear all the comments. I’m sorry but I don’t get wound up at all about descriptors. All that matters is whether I like it.

 

[terryros]

Thanks everyone, it’s interesting to hear all the comments. I’m sorry but I don’t get wound up at all about descriptors. All that matters is whether I like it.

David, I certainly agree that liking the plant and flower comes first, but I have a need to name my plants as accurately as I can. I get bugged when a commercial vendor is selling something as a Bc when it is now an Rlc! Similarly, I want to use correct color form nomenclature. However, this exactness can be seen as a character flaw in me!

In cases like these two, a different color form is used with a further descriptor (is usually required esp. in labiatas) such as semi-concolor purpurea lineata (one line on lip) or purpurea-striata (more lines or veins on lip).

Leslie, would Rlc. Pastoral ‘Innocence’, which is all white except for a little lavender stripe at the end of the lip, be a semi-alba purpurea lineata?

 

[DrLeslieEe]

David, I certainly agree that liking the plant and flower comes first, but I have a need to name my plants as accurately as I can. I get bugged when a commercial vendor is selling something as a Bc when it is now an Rlc! Similarly, I want to use correct color form nomenclature. However, this exactness can be seen as a character flaw in me!

Leslie, would Rlc. Pastoral ‘Innocence’, which is all white except for a little lavender stripe at the end of the lip, be a semi-alba purpurea lineata?

Yes

 

[Guldal]

I want to use correct color form nomenclature. However, this exactness can be seen as a character flaw in me!

Terry, no need to make excuses. I think most of us here carry a little streak of OCD in us...either in the hoarding 'department' or as sticklers for exactitude....or, worst of all, BOTH!

 

[monocotman]

Indeed Jens, in my circle we call hoarding ‘stamp collecting’.