Ideas please!!

[phraggy]

Had this plant for the last two years and was bought from a dealer who sometimes deal with EYOF. This Phrag had no identification, the dealer said it just came ' buckshee' in a small consignment. Anyhow the flower opened yesterday , I have been searching the web for identification but came up with nothing. If any kind person can identify I would be most grateful. The plant measurements are as follows:-
Leafspan 22cms.
Plant height is only 13cms and the height including the flower ( not the pot ) is
30cms The flower is 10cms in width and 8cms in height. The leaves are very hard and a dark green a bit kovachii style.

 

[eteson]

It could be Fritz Schomburg.

 

[Linus_Cello]

very red, rather than pink that's typical of most FS. Maybe Phrag. Robert-Jan Quene?

 

[monocotman]

Looks like a nice kovachii hybrid.
If it is from the EYOF then it could be anything.
It is small so it could have been a runt and so was given away with no parentage.
David

 

[phraggy]

Looks like a nice kovachii hybrid.
If it is from the EYOF then it could be anything.
It is small so it could have been a runt and so was given away with no parentage.
David

Hi David. It looks very nice for a runt. I got another at the same time which was very small. The label on this said besseae x casselman river. A lovely flower a bit like this one. The difference though was the difference in leaf and this flower had a very striated pouch.
Thanks for the input,

Ed

 

[blondie]

It dose look like Fritz Schomburg.
Have you thought about emailing the foundation with a picture they are really nice guys there, and I'm sure they would be able to help you out.
I might know the suppiler you got it from so it could be Phragmipedium Peruflora's Cirila Alca
As I know the foundation remade this cross.
The two kovachii hybrids I have are quite short in hieght and small in width.

 

[phraggy]

It could be Fritz Schomburg.

Thanks ateson but I have a Fritz Schomberg and it's a lot bigger than this one.

Ed

 

[eteson]

Thanks ateson but I have a Fritz Schomberg and it's a lot bigger than this one.

Ed

The plant or the flower?

 

[tomkalina]

I'm also thinking more R-J Quene' than FS or PFCA.... Whatever it is, it's very nice. Might be worthwhile contacting the EY Orchid Foundation for input.

 

[NYEric]

Circle Alca x besseae?
Don't follow the advice above, your source could dry up.

 

[tomkalina]

Could also be FS x d'alessandroi, but more probably a diploid R-J Quene.

 

[phraggy]

The plant or the flower?

Sorry to say that the plant and the flower are much larger.

Ed

Also sorry I called you ateson instead of eteson!!

 

[eteson]

Sorry to say that the plant and the flower are much larger.

Ed

Also sorry I called you ateson instead of eteson!!

Thanks! Then yes. I would agree with it being RJQ.
No worries! ateson and eteson is almost the same.

 

[NYEric]

Could also be FS x d'alessandroi, but more probably a diploid R-J Quene.

Duh! i forgot EYOF, definitely ploidied up the wazzoo!