naoki
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I've meant to archive Antec Lab's web site (www.ladyslipper.com), and I thought I should do it now. But now it's gone.... Has anyone archived/mirrored the entire site? If so, can you share it with me?
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Antec web site archive?
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What happened to AnTec? I've been out of the orchid world for about ten years.
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naoki
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Dot, thank you very much! It's there! It was my bible to learn about Paph growing 12 years ago, so I'm glad that this info hasn't been lost. It is a pretty cool site, I need to check if I can dig up other lost info (like terrestrial orchid forum or older version of miranda orchid site with lots of Cattleya info).
bulolo, they closed long time ago (about 5 years ago??), but they kept the website. But I think they lost the domain name in the last couple months.
bulolo, they closed long time ago (about 5 years ago??), but they kept the website. But I think they lost the domain name in the last couple months.
emydura
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Someone showed me that website a few months ago. It blew me away that you can retrieve any website going way back. It is a very useful site.
John M
Orchid Addict
Very cool! I know nothing about how this works. Could this site be used to archive the Orchid Source Forum? It's being closed down in about a month. There's years and years and years of really good info, stories and photos. I've been kind of feeling sick about the huge loss as the end approaches.
SlipperKing
Madd Virologist
Its closer to ten years Antec has been gone but all is not lost! I saw recently were Bob and Lynn had a couple of Paphs awarded out in Calif. in the last 2 years.
NYEric
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Was vietnamense one of them!? :evil:
emydura
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It is already being archived John. Every website on the internet is regularly being archived.
1. Go into this website https://archive.org/web/
2. Where it says browse history paste in the web address http://forum.theorchidsource.com/ and click "browse history"
3. You will see running across the screen a whole lot of years. Click the year you want to go back to.
4. Lets stay with 2015. In the calendar below you will see a whole of blue circles covering various days of the month. These were the days this website was archived. Click on Jan 9. This is what the forum looked like on the 9th Jan 2015.
5. You can now browse the orchidforum website as you normally would.
As long as this website exists you can always look at archived versions of the orchid forum.
This archived website is very useful for retrieving information that may have been removed from a website. At work I needed to access a document that was no longer on our own website. I was able to retrieve it by using this archived website, go back 5 years and there it was.
Cheers
how good is that!
naoki
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Rick, I didn't know that they are still growing some paphs, that's cool!
John and David, I don't think that the contents of forums are archived. I looked for the contents of http://www.terrorchid.org, and I couldn't find the contents even though the table of contents are there (same thing with Orchid Source). I think that the actual contents of forums are in the databases, and php accesses the contents. So the forum contents are not archived. There appear to be some methods to archive php forum described here and in the link provided there.
Here is the info about retrieving from archive.org:
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Restoring
Here is the ruby-based program for downloading:
https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader
Here is the link to AnTec archive (about 100MB total):
https://web.archive.org/web/20150908161654/http://www.ladyslipper.com/
Some of the photos are missing (that's how it was a couple months ago), but if you go back in time, these photos can be found.
Also, here is the last version of Miranda Orchids site (about the Brazilian Catt info), which is missing after he did the complete make-over:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130619050901/http://mirandaorchids.com/brazilianorchidsVGA.htm
John and David, I don't think that the contents of forums are archived. I looked for the contents of http://www.terrorchid.org, and I couldn't find the contents even though the table of contents are there (same thing with Orchid Source). I think that the actual contents of forums are in the databases, and php accesses the contents. So the forum contents are not archived. There appear to be some methods to archive php forum described here and in the link provided there.
Here is the info about retrieving from archive.org:
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Restoring
Here is the ruby-based program for downloading:
https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader
Here is the link to AnTec archive (about 100MB total):
https://web.archive.org/web/20150908161654/http://www.ladyslipper.com/
Some of the photos are missing (that's how it was a couple months ago), but if you go back in time, these photos can be found.
Also, here is the last version of Miranda Orchids site (about the Brazilian Catt info), which is missing after he did the complete make-over:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130619050901/http://mirandaorchids.com/brazilianorchidsVGA.htm
Cool ty
Elmer Nj
Elmer Nj
John M
Orchid Addict
Thanks very much David and naoki. But, now I'm confused more. Is the OSF archived or not? If not, is there something that can be done to get it archived?
Also...David, I tried to go to the link that you gave. However, it won't open for me. It's not likely a problem with the link. My computer is very old and so is my software that's installed on it. I can't upgrade them until I get a new computer. This one is fussy and I don't dare make it do anything now as strenuous as loading a new program! I'm still using Windows XP (no longer supported) and a browser that about 50% of websites won't recognise any more. Hopefully, one day, when I get things updated I will be able to see the archived OSF...if it is in fact archived.
Thanks.
Also...David, I tried to go to the link that you gave. However, it won't open for me. It's not likely a problem with the link. My computer is very old and so is my software that's installed on it. I can't upgrade them until I get a new computer. This one is fussy and I don't dare make it do anything now as strenuous as loading a new program! I'm still using Windows XP (no longer supported) and a browser that about 50% of websites won't recognise any more. Hopefully, one day, when I get things updated I will be able to see the archived OSF...if it is in fact archived.
Thanks.
John, I couldn't access the AnTec either and I have the
current MacBookPro. I don't think it's your computer, but
I don't know what it is. Maybe I'll try again later.
current MacBookPro. I don't think it's your computer, but
I don't know what it is. Maybe I'll try again later.
emydura
Well-Known Member
Well you wouldn't be able to access the AnTec site as it is permanently down. But you can access an archived version in the link Naoki provided above. I find I can access pretty much everything in that link - photos, articles etc.
If you can't access the website https://archive.org/web/ John I'd say your problem is related to the web browser you are using. You would need a more up to date version.
I tried to access OSF via https://archive.org/web/ which I could. But when I tried to look at various posts I would get the message below saying that the web page is already available online (which it is). So I'm assuming it won't be fully functional until the whole site goes down. That is if web pages are currently available it doesn't fully archive them.
Whether the OSF website will be fully archived I couldn't tell you. Maybe Naoki is right. You may be able access certain parts but not all. I don't know enough about it.
Naoki - I tried to access this site through web archive and got no where. I just got the message - Page cannot be crawled or displayed due to robots.txt.
http://www.terrorchid.org
If you can't access the website https://archive.org/web/ John I'd say your problem is related to the web browser you are using. You would need a more up to date version.
I tried to access OSF via https://archive.org/web/ which I could. But when I tried to look at various posts I would get the message below saying that the web page is already available online (which it is). So I'm assuming it won't be fully functional until the whole site goes down. That is if web pages are currently available it doesn't fully archive them.
Whether the OSF website will be fully archived I couldn't tell you. Maybe Naoki is right. You may be able access certain parts but not all. I don't know enough about it.
Naoki - I tried to access this site through web archive and got no where. I just got the message - Page cannot be crawled or displayed due to robots.txt.
http://www.terrorchid.org
naoki
Well-Known Member
David, here is the link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130106182816/http://forum.terrorchid.org/
www.terrorchd.org was the front end web site, and within the site there was forum.terrorchid.org. So somehow, the front end site was not archived, but forum is. But it doesn't contain any contents (only subject lines are there).
I'm not sure the problems with Angela's and John's. But after poking around, it appears that I was wrong (about phpBB) and the forum contents can be archived by clicking the "Save this url in the way back machine", shown in David's image. This will save only the particular page of the thread. This is not automatically done. So most (probably all) of the contents of orchid source are not archived.
Slippertalk is not archived at all due to robot.txt.
NYEric
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We are legion! :evil:
You will be here forever, for ever and ever and ever!
Not archived there but sometimes I look stuff up and old STF threads come up.
You will be here forever, for ever and ever and ever!
Not archived there but sometimes I look stuff up and old STF threads come up.
Does anyone know if Antec still has their plants? As far as I'm aware they're the only ones that ever had lowii var. lynniae.
I tried the links again and was generally successful without
nosing around a lot.
nosing around a lot.
