sorry, I originally read Australian nursery
might be, but the plant is still not a multigrowth (as you mentioned) and as far as I know FG has also bred his xglanzii... so it could also be his own plant...
I checked with Austria, they had a lot of plants blooming size and in bud, and they get the visit of Franz Glanz about 2-4 times a year, period.
If you want a picture of one of the blooming size plants from their new batch, here it is:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Paphiopedilum-glanzii-(micranthum-x-emersonii)_W0QQitemZ380181203255QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091215?IMSfp=TL091215169005r21085
My point is that I personally do not think that all, absolutelly ALL, Paphiopedilum plants on this world go through "conspiration theory"-threads, malintended mislabellings, illegal threads, and so on... in other words, let's say I am the "Agent Scully" in this story...
Definitely not, but let's say a fair share of the worldwide market, that would fit the bill.
From the micranthum flasks story that I was the witness in Taiwan up to the besseae 'Wings of Fire' x self sold worldwide, there are a lot of plants that are sold and not true to their names or their parentage. It's a business, there are some fair players, and a lot that are absolutely not. Add esquirolei Atlas, Taka, and the grand champion of the World Orchid Conference in Dijon that were not esquirolei but complex pot plant hybrids that look like esquirolei, and you can get an idea about what's going one.
Think about the future too. Apparently we have lost lawrenceanum album in cultivation because some people, 30-40 years ago, wanted to make big bucks and called a linebred Maudiae lawrenceanum 'Tradition', and you get the bill. Superbiens album? I am not pretty sure there are any real ones anymore. Why I can claim that? Because I selfed some of those stuff, bloomed them to 'select' and ended up with a massive fuckup of hybrids and intergrade. Not many, but enough to know that those were bogus. The chamberlainianum or glaucophyllum that are hybrids are another case in point.
Please do not misunderstand me, nothing personal against you or your comments, and I appreciate that in many cases you may have good fundaments for your comments and a good knowledge in the field... maybe it's me being "too naïve", but I also tend to believe some people do things right, and it's difficult for me to believe in omnipotence or a single person having the absolut knowledge and truth about everything on this world, no matter if it happens in Taiwan, China, Japan, Australia, Germany, France, Zimbawe, Canada, USA, Argentina or Timbuktuk... (that's also one of the reasons why I do not believe in God)
Omnipotence, I would never have the pretention. The fact that I know most of the people in this field, and many in situations that have never been made public, that's the truth. The fact too that a lot of sellers want to get flasks and plants from me, giving me sometimes, or most of the time, the real story behind some plants. Why so? Because if I buy the wrong plants from them, maybe I will not sell to them later flasks or exchange divisions. Maybe as well because we traveled together, or because I helped them for various matters...
Paph xglanzii is believed to be the natural hybrid between emersonii x micranthum. Natural hybrids occur "pretty" often (note: I do not refer to number of individual plants in nature, but more to the number natural hybrids between different orchid species!).
xGlanzii occurs only in Ha Giang, Vietnam. Franz Glanz plant comes from there in fact but for the detailed history of that plant I put a joker
( another joker for the accuracy of the parentage he gives sometimes for his seedlings
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They find about 10-20 plants each year in that area. The remake with micranthum Kwangsee x emersonii looks exactly in terms of color and shape like the natural hybrid. That's the remake they have in Austria, and they have thousands of them - and many blooming size delenatii albums, delenatii dunkel, besseae flavums, besseae, etc.. come from that nursery as well.
Visit the nursery, it's close to Linz, and then you can understand from where many German paphs and phrags are coming from. But that nursery will not put the SM/DOG, BDSM, etc... on the parents, they are honest for that. They are even doing thousands of cypripedium seedlings.
I can say I have been there a couple years ago when they got the coldest winter ever in Germany, with a very famous German nurseryman.
The CD player of the auto was blocked on a single track, and no way to remove the damn CD, singing 'Mein Kaktus ist in blute, das ist schooooooooone' the whole freaking way and we had to borrow from the restaurant on the road a knife to fix the problem.
We had to wait in Bavaria stuck with the car for a day, and we went to visit Franz Glanz at the same time on the way back. :evil: :evil: :evil:
I respect Franz Glanz as a grower, he has amazing culture, especially for the multiflorals.
