Phrag ID ???

[Roy]

G'day, here is a pic of a Phrag I bought as a seedling Praying Mantis, clearly its not. I was told it was a Carol Kanzer, its not, its 4 times or better the size of a Carol Kanzer from what I have seen. The plant grows like calurum but more upright. The size across the petals from memory is about 4 inches ( 100 mm ) Any suggestions on what it may be will be appreciated. I hope to get a better pic this season.

Roy

 

[NYEric]

Looks like Cleola, Mountford or Silver Eagle.

 

[Marco]

i dont know what it is but i like it

 

[SlipperFan]

That's great. If you don't like it, I know someone who does...

 

[smartie2000]

Yea I like it too, excellent shape, too bad it doesn't have an id yet.

The pouch is very wide, which phrag would give those characteristics? Maybe it has phrag grande in it?

 

[Roy]

Could it have Schroederae in it ????

 

[NYEric]

Yes.

 

[TADD]

Wossen maybe? richteri x schlimii>

 

[Roy]

Too big for Wossen.

 

[Roy]

I think NYEric could be on the money with one of his &/or including Schroederae.

 

[SlipperFan]

I think it looks a lot like my Memoria Ann Stuckey (pearcei x Silver Eagle).

 

[Eric Muehlbauer]

I don't think its Schroderae....too pale, and not "muscular" like Schrodera...that's a massive bloom with bigger shoulders than I have! Take care, Eric

 

[Roy]

Dot, I think you may have hit the right note. I bought the seedling from a grower / breeder who has the right plants for creating Silver Eagle and your cross but I he doesn't actually have a Silver Eagle plant in his collection. I am begining to think he made the Silver Eagle cross and mixed up the flask names. BTW, I love your plant, such a change from the reds. oke:

 

[NYEric]

It's not Silver Eagle but could be something made w/ it. The twisted leaf shape isn't consistent.

 

[Roy]

OK, next question, could this have Calurum or Sedenii 'Candidum' as a parent ???

 

[NYEric]

calurum-creamy inside pouch w/ green spots? Sedenii-schlimii x longifolium, could be.

 

[Roy]

Dot, I posted the pic of my Phrag for ID on another forum and a member posted a pic of a Phrag, same cross as yours ( his from Orchid Zone ) his is much whiter and apart from the pouch being very pale like your plant where mine is deep pink they are extremely close. Your observations have been a great help, thanks.
Oh! What size plant does yours make please, leaf length etc ???

 

[SlipperFan]

Dot, I posted the pic of my Phrag for ID on another forum and a member posted a pic of a Phrag, same cross as yours ( his from Orchid Zone ) his is much whiter and apart from the pouch being very pale like your plant where mine is deep pink they are extremely close. Your observations have been a great help, thanks.
Oh! What size plant does yours make please, leaf length etc ???

Unfortunately, mine is very sick right now -- might not make it. But as I recall, the plant wasn't terribly big. More of a medium size Phrag. The pearcei should help keep it a reasonable size. Mine was ultimately from OZ, also, by the way. I'd get another one, if I could find one.