This was awarded in 1971, so it's almost as old as I am. I'm not usually fond of toadies, but bought it very cheaply at the Paph House going out of business sale. It didn't skip a beat when I transfered it to semi hydro and spiked a few months later. It's its first blooming for me. This cross has been awarded 41 times over the years, so there are quite a few awarded Kay Rinamans out there.