Paph. jackii/ malipoense ?

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  1. Jan 9, 2008 #1

    Axel

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    Hi folks,

    I bought this plant labelled as jackii in spring 2007. It is now flowering (1st time) and, to me, isn't a true jackii (or typical one). Staminode is indeed different, and more malipo-like. On the other hand, should it be a malipoense, its shape appears unusual to me (narrower petals). That's why I think it could also be malipoense x jackii. What do you think ?

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  2. Jan 9, 2008 #2

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    looks like a straight malipoense to me. no jackii at all in the background
     
  3. Jan 10, 2008 #3

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    To me it appears to be pure Paph malipoense. The flower is in range of typical malipoense. Those lovely photos of full round malipoense are of the exceptional few that people brag about. Yours is well in range of normal. Pleasant. I'd keep watering it. Important - jackii has fine lines where malipoense has a solid purple mark on the staminode. I have seen several of the hybrid (malipoense x jackii) and the purple blotch is broken up into lines in the hybrid. Your foligae is typical of malipoense, the foliage of jackii is much lighter backgound with a checkerboard pattern of darker blotches. The foliage of malipoense tends to be mostly dark green with lighter paterning. So foliage, and staminode say - pure malipoense.
     
  4. Jan 10, 2008 #4

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    And what a NICE one it is!

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  5. Jan 10, 2008 #5

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    it is definitely a straight malipoense and looking at the plant I think it could be from the same origin that tha plant as bought as var hiepii and that turned out to be a stright malipoense as well
     
  6. Jan 10, 2008 #6

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    OK for malipoense then ; thanks very much for your answers :):)
     
  7. Jan 10, 2008 #7

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    I have jackii...definitely NOT one of those! malipoense I agree.
     
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    Axel, I agree with Leo & everybody that this is malipoense.
    The leaves look like it . Also, a person without eyesight could also tell these two apart, because the top of jackii's leaves are smooth to the touch (versus rough & bumpy of malipoense)
     
  9. Jan 10, 2008 #9

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    Hello Axel,
    I believe that is paph. malipoense var. malipoense

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  10. Jan 11, 2008 #10

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    Looks like we have consensus.
     
  11. Jan 13, 2008 #11

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    Yes, indeed, and Hakone's picture looks very much like my plant.
    Hakone, is this your plant ? Where did you get it ? I bought mine from Popow.
     
  12. Jan 13, 2008 #12

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    Hello Axel,
    yes Sir, orchids nursery in the proximity where I lives
     
  13. Jan 13, 2008 #13

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    No one said Phrag besseae, so I guess I have to. :)

    -Ernie
     
  14. Jan 13, 2008 #14
    :rollhappy::rollhappy: You beat Eric to the punch!
     
  15. Jan 14, 2008 #15

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    Why, it's obviously to green! :D
     
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    It must be that somebody pulls the tag out , then puts it back in the wrong plant. Supposedly this happens all the times at shows with general population crowd (not real collectors, they are more carefull) .
    Because Mr. Popow is quite knowledgeable in slipper orchids. I don't think he would make the mistake.
     
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    Hien, you're an Awarded Stud!!?!! :poke:
     
  18. Jan 25, 2008 #18

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    Hey Axel
    Here is a picture I took of a friend's plant that is the true malipoense var jackii. note the staminode markings are lines. Foliage pattern is the checkerboard marks rather than the brocade pattern in malipoense var malipoense. Fragrance is a little different also.

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    That's lovely. Interesting about the pattern and staminode markings.
     

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