Thanks all!
NS of the flower is about 7,5 cm and LS is 20 cm. So the flower is about the size of spicerianum but the leaves are shorter.
Not a bad starting point for miniature breeding I guess.
There are mini spicers out there, I've got one in bud
These are nice flowers, like a muted spicerianum. The other helenae pic thread right now looks like helenae does the same thing, mutes the other species (or hybrid) and of course makes it smaller