despite Claude Hamiltons amazing collection and breeding efforts, Roy Tokunaga or H&R nurseries here in hawaii has some of the best (many are treated 4N's) broughtonias in the world. he's done 'star splash' crosses, reds, whites, yellows etc and they are unbelievable. he has massive specimen plants that are all CCE quality but he does not show them. people looking for this wonderful species should contact H&R and inquire about any sanguinea's for sale.