Paph. fairieanum ssp ? or X ??

Discussion in 'Taxonomy' started by Bernd_S, Mar 19, 2014.

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  1. Mar 20, 2014 #21

    Ozpaph

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    The other amazing thing is the complete lack of red in the leaves, unlike most vinicoloured barbatas.
     
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    Rick, I agree with you that the nigrescens is not a typical fairrieanum. It has a very untypical colour, but that's (for me) the only difference. The dorsal looks relatively small from the drawing, and yes, it reflexes forward, including the typical fairrieanum waves in the upper third. It does show the small bract too. The petals recurve backwards. The colour of the dorsal and the pouch were described as "dark wine-red", whilst the petals were "dark reddish-purple".
    Bernds flower has not just one but a few peculiar features for a fairrie and I'm not convinced yet that it is straight fairrie.

    Bernd, who was the vendor who sold you this plant? Have you tried to contact him?
     
  3. Mar 20, 2014 #23

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    If this is a hybrid there is an easy way to test: self it. A hybrid would produce a large range of phenotypes. If this is a real fairieanum we should see only minor variation among the offspring. I see little reason to doubt the authenticity of the label without better evidence than "it looks different to what I'm used to."
     
  4. Mar 20, 2014 #24
    I think it is the real deal. Yes, I would self it too. If it is a red vini-color x fairrieanum hybrid, if you self it, it will probably be sterile. These hybrids rarely breed. If it is a true fairrieanum, you will more than likely get viable seed if you self it.

    Robert
     
  5. Mar 21, 2014 #25

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    Good point guys. I'd like to see you self the plant Bernd
     
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    It certainly looks like a pure fairieanum to me....just a very extreme colour form.

    The plain green leaves indicate virtually zero barbata-type influence. Yes, self it. That will provide more of this spectacular plant to the hobby as well as definitively answer the question: Hybrid or not?
     
  7. Mar 22, 2014 #27

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    Very intriguing plant. I'd love to see pictures of the parents not just to prove the debate of hybrid or species, but to see how much darker it is than them. It would be interesting to see if the form was the same as well. I'm interested as to why it doesn't recurve like the usual fairieanum.
     

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