Paph boxallii

[Ross]

Or Paph villosum var. boxallii.

 

[Ernie]

Ross,

This group (villosum complex) now confuses the heck out of me, but that looks like what we used to call gratrixianum???

This fits my mental concept of boxallii (from Steve Manza's site): http://www.slipperorchids.info/paphdatasheets/paphiopedilum/villosumvarboxallii/index.html

I think the green on the dorsal and the "unique" pattern on the dorsal and petals set it apart???

Still gorgeous and perfectly grown!

-Ernie

 

[SlipperKing]

Nice Ross

 

[Ross]

Ross,

This group (villosum complex) now confuses the heck out of me, but that looks like what we used to call gratrixianum???

This fits my mental concept of boxallii (from Steve Manza's site): http://www.slipperorchids.info/paphdatasheets/paphiopedilum/villosumvarboxallii/index.html

I think the green on the dorsal and the "unique" pattern on the dorsal and petals set it apart???

Still gorgeous and perfectly grown!

-Ernie

I'm with you, Ernie! I just go by the tag which is boxallii.

 

[JeanLux]

very nice blooms and great plant Ross !!!
As for the naming I am with Ernie (and had to look at the pics of my gratrixianum again => http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9963&highlight=gratrixianum)
Jean

 

[TyroneGenade]

Oo! That is a fetching gratrixianum you have there ;-)

 

[biothanasis]

Very nice gratr.... ops.... I mean bixallii...

 

[GuRu]

Ross,

an old saying comes into my mind in this case: 'Don't trust tags too much'
Nice gratrixianum - congrats.

Best regards from Germany, rudolf

 

[Roth]

That one is a gratrixianum type 'Affine', nice one by the way...

 

[WolfDog1 (C. Williams)]

I agree with all the above as well. Looks like a better than typical paph (now or again) affine to me.

Craig

 

[etex]

Beautiful flowers!! It looks great!

 

[SlipperFan]

Third photo is especially nice!

 

[Pete]

i have some that are exactly like that, ive always just considered them gratrixianum

 

[goldenrose]

Ross,

an old saying comes into my mind in this case: 'Don't trust tags too much'
Nice gratrixianum - congrats.

Best regards from Germany, rudolf

i have some that are exactly like that, ive always just considered them gratrixianum

:rollhappy: Now I wonder what I have!

 

[callosum]

petals dots

gratrixianum has a dots on the dorsal petal
villosum had none :rollhappy:

 

[Roth]

gratrixianum has a dots on the dorsal petal
villosum had none :rollhappy:

Boxallii has dots on the dorsal as well, that's what makes it complicated sometimes, and the villosum from Nha Trang have dots too on their dorsal.

In fact, I think there are many evolving species from villosum to gratrixianum. However Boxallii is extremely rare in the wild nowadays, only recorded from Lao Cai area in Vietnam, and then from Burma/India for sure. The Chinese plants are plants collected in Vietnam.

Affine is coming from Vietnam too, in Gia Lai Kontum, I have seen some really massive plants of 'affine'. Affine is what is pictured here, and has narrower erect leaves. The 'true' gratrixianum has very wide leaves, some plants can be close to 60-80 cm, with leaves 5-6 wide, quite soft, and so far has never been used lately in breeding. It is possible that they used it as a 'villosum' or 'unknown parentage' for the early complex breeding... It would explain the spotting of some lineage of complex hybrids.

Affine is as well what has been used in the pot-plant trade under the name gratrixianum.

One famous pioneer of using affine for pot-plant is Prins Paphiopedilum. All of his breeding program used affine x complex hybrids. The reason is simple, affine blooms several times a year, and makes 2-3 new growths for each old growth. It clumps easily too, so it was the perfect parent to cross with slower growing, single flowered complexes. I have been very impressed by his breeding results, some being really very good with even several stems on a pot, and 2 flowers per stem - another trait that oddly enough affine passes to its progeny quite frequently, albeit affine very rarely has more than a flower/stem.