My experience some 4+ years ago with the red and blue lamps was a bad experience. The crap assembled in China, and sold for what seemed to be top dollar, all failed within 3 weeks. The vendor really tried to make good, successively sent out replacement lamps, but the replacements failed within 3 weeks also. After the 3rd replacement, the vendor was frustrated and I gave up. I won't try them again until I can find lamps assembled in the USA or Germany, with parts made in the USA or Germany. :viking: Buyers beware. Prototypes are often made and tested in the US, perform well and get good write ups, then the manufacturers off shore the production and the quality control from China is non-existant. LED is still too expensive to put up with low quality. This is one technology I won't revisit for at least another decade. I also think this is the issue that causes so many hydroponics shops to avoid LED, they can't afford selling problems to their customers. That's my experience.
Honestly, I think in principle LED is a great technology, but as of 4 years ago, it wasn't ready for prime time, and it is too expensive for me to risk trying it again, especially since the $12 shop light fixture with the $1.99 cool white T-12 lamps is really good enough for most Paph seedlings and all manner of shade loving orchids, as long as they are small enough to keep within 12 inches of the T-12 lamps. I have a couple cool white shop light benches set up where the fixture has been trouble free for 20+ years. Just have to replace the lamps every 2 years. I do use T5's and HPS lamps in other areas for my taller & high light plants, but I'm just pointing out that there are tried and proven quite adequate older technologies that don't have the problems that LED's seem to have.
I do encourage the collective "you guys" to work the bugs out of using LED's so when I check back in 5 years from now all I'll have to do is read a short one page post and have all I need to know to set myself up. :evil: But I can't afford the cost and frustration to go with LED's at this time.
My 2 cents.
viking: can you tell I'm still mad about the money lost 4 years ago?)