2 unknown Phrags

[Claudia6982]

Hallo

Last year I bought this one as Phrag Cardinale. Now it is in bloom and I don't believe it is a Phrag Cardinale. But what is it?

This Phrag I bought without a name. I think it is a Phrag Sedenii. What do you think?

Thanks for your answers.

 

[Dido]

where did you buy it.

 

[Tibo74]

maybe the first one is Phrag Hanne Popow...

 

[Shiva]

I agree for Hanne Popow for the first one. And I would say Sedenii for the second.

 

[Brabantia]

For me the second is Phragmipedium calurum (Phrag sedenii x Phrag. longifolium).
I have the same look Here

 

[SlipperKing]

Hanna Popow #1 Sedenii #2. My Calurum doesn't look anything like this flower. Calurum has "ears" on the top of the pouch as in mine.
http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15540&highlight=Calurum

 

[W. Beetus]

Nice! The second one is Sedenii in my opinion.

 

[John M]

The first one certainly does look like a Hanne Popow. The second one does not have prominent enough horns ("ears"), on the margins of the pouch. All forms of longifolium have very prominent horns and Sedenii, being half longifolium, has very distinct vestigial horns as well. This flower does not exhibit enough longifolium characteristics. It looks more like a complex hybrid; rather than a primary one. Perhaps Schroederae x Sedenii? I don't think you'll ever know about this one. You really should not put a name on it. It's impossible to know if you're correct. However, I feel that labelling the #1 flower as Hanne Popow is reasonable.

 

[SlipperFan]

The second one might be Charlie Hanson (fischeri x richteri). But my plant's petals are more twisted and not quite as dark a red.

 

[NYEric]

I agree for Hanne Popow for the first one. And I would say Sedenii for the second.

Winner!

 

[biothanasis]

Very nice!!

 

[smartie2000]

I'd keep the second one unknown

 

[Wendy]

The first one certainly does look like a Hanne Popow. The second one does not have prominent enough horns ("ears"), on the margins of the pouch. All forms of longifolium have very prominent horns and Sedenii, being half longifolium, has very distinct vestigial horns as well. This flower does not exhibit enough longifolium characteristics. It looks more like a complex hybrid; rather than a primary one. Perhaps Schroederae x Sedenii? I don't think you'll ever know about this one. You really should not put a name on it. It's impossible to know if you're correct. However, I feel that labelling the #1 flower as Hanne Popow is reasonable.

I second this.