Warning: Faux UK ebay-dealers...or GET BREXIT DONE!

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  1. Dec 18, 2019 #1

    Guldal

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    I just visited ebay.uk - and to my chagrin saw, that three disreputable, alleged paph-dealers are still at their game.

    This made me so upset, that I have decided to publish a clear and unequivocal warning here.

    The first two dealers I, myself, delt with in the beginning of my carreer as a paphioholic - every single plant, I bought from them, when finally flowering, turned out to be exactly not, what I bargained for.

    These dealers are: 'Blakessbotanicals1' and 'Airplanefran'.

    You might notice, that they both have a quite high, positive feedback score, which only can be explained due to the fact, that the plants look allright on arrival - first later, sometimes pretty much later, when the plant is flowering, you discover, that you've been had, as the plant you bought as a species, unavoidably turns out to be a hybrid (often not even an interesting such!).

    I've since learned from a compatriote here on STC, that he much later had exactly the same negative experiences with the mentioned parties. You can read about his unlucky adventures in the thread: https://www.slippertalk.com/threads/when-to-warn-against-sellers.47768/

    The third dealer I, personally, haven't delt with, but friends in my orchid society have reported almost identical experiences with this dealer, as I've had with the abovementioned: 'Falconer1211'.

    Just take a look at the alleged bougainvilleanum, this dealer has on offer - notice especially the foliage in the plant in flower in the middle picture, then compare with the foliage of theplant on offer (third picture):
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Species-Orchid-Paphiopedilum-bougainvilleanum-Bloom-Size/163676904453?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=9a0acbe4a7774a3ab0b4a4c77a696b59&pid=100675&rk=5&rkt=15&sd=233178322781&itm=163676904453&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:484c8aa7-21be-11ea-be97-74dbd180bf61|parentrq:1a1e05d816f0aafabcb877d0ffab824e|iid:1

    With this the counsel for the prosecution rests his case!
     
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  2. Dec 23, 2019 #2

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    While we're at it. This offer was send to me today. I have not shown any interest in this plant at all.
    Interesting seller though. New name, no feedback. But the way the whole thing is made screams "Greenhousetropicals", who has been mentioned around here a few times.


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  3. Dec 23, 2019 #3

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    Well done for naming and shaming!
    David
     
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  4. Dec 27, 2019 #4

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    Well, another plant from Falconer has opened.
    I bought this:
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    And got this:
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    Another plant, bought as "Mystic Knight" from AirplaneFran is opening these days too.
    I'll post pics of that one too, as it sure as hell isn't a nice white paph either :mad:
     
  5. Dec 29, 2019 #5

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  6. Dec 29, 2019 #6

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    GET BREXIT DONE!!!! ALREADY!!!
     
  7. Dec 30, 2019 #7

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    If you buy from a seller with good feedback, you expect to get what you order.
    Wether I should have researched the plant or not, is another story.
    The use of pictures that belong to others, isn't uncommon. I've seen my own paph. Envy Green pics being used by a seller from Holland. I like his plants, so I don't mind, but he never asked. Just took it from the web I guess.
     
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  8. Dec 30, 2019 #8

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    Well, he can't say, I didn't warn him to go up that (blind) alley!

    But, as we say in danish: "Hvis man ikke vil høre, så må man føle!" (litt. trans. 'If one does not want to hear, then one must feel', I.e. suffer the consequences!) :D:D:D
     
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    I had bought some before Jens warned me, but it seems he enjoys robbing my nose in it :D
     
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  10. Dec 30, 2019 #10

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    After your new avatarphoto I'm ready to rub your nose in anything being at hand! :p
     
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    The "Mystic Knight" is open o_O
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  12. Jan 6, 2020 #12

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    I know falconer is a scammer and a thief, a friend of mine used to buy from him and all the plants turned out to be cheap noid hybrids sold as expensive species (he also have very high prices in the first place apart the fact thath is a known scammer so really don't know why people still buy from him)
     
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    How much did you pay for the wrong Mystic Knight?
     
  14. Jan 8, 2020 #14

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    war-3971 stole one of my images of Cypripedium farreri but removed it when challenged.

    I’m pretty sure that ebay.co.uk seller “war-3971” is Kai Najda (=greenhousetropicals). Many of the offerings are too good to be true.
    I would be very wary of any seller who is based in Germany but does not sell to the German market (and doesn’t sell on ebay.de).
    I gather that Kai Najda was investigated in Germany some years back for fraudulent selling. Is there a ban in place preventing further sales in Germany?
     
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    Your input makes sense, Steven. I have over the years on ebay seen a seller under a load of guises - the ones you and Per mention, then something 'botanicalsandmore' and 'begoniacea'-something-something and a few others.

    He often succeeds in having quite a lot of good feedback (God knows how - selling to/buying from himself under different aliases? Or from equally crooked friends?), operating sometimes out of UK, sometimes out of Belgium. Your story of a court case and possible conviction for fraud against him in Germany might explain, why he Isn't operating from there!

    His trademark, though, is the barrage of verbal abuse and counteraccusations, everytime someone leaves negative feedback. That alone ought to make people smell a rat - and a fishy rat he is, indeed!
     
  16. Jan 21, 2020 #16

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    Their own deceitful nature will catch up with them in the end. I can imagine that one of the problems is them stealing money. The other problem is the time (months, years) taken up and the anticipation - waiting for the flowering - only to be frustrated and disappointed over being deceived. I agree that one would expect a fair chance of not running into trouble when the feedback rating is very high.
     

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