Say, did anyone see the helenaes and hangs being sold openly at the WOC?
I wish!!If the WOC was in Canada those plants would be fine! sure is funny how it is up to each country how they wish to enforce the rules of CITIES. My local society had just obtained a CITIES permit to import paph species for our spring show. helenaes and hangs are on the list of plants that are being legally imported. all you need to do is move to Canada and you can have anything you want!
One BIG misconception is that flasks are legal (per your last sentence). This is very untrue. The parents of the plants in the flask MUST have been acquired with full, documented permission of the government under whose jurisdiction they were collected. Rod Grabel made it 100% clear that Vietnam has released ZERO hangianum, helenae, tranlienianum, or vietnamense meeting this criteria. He also stated that China has NOT YET released any of the "border" species, but are in the process of doing so.the USA considers Taiwan as part of China and some of these particular vietnamese plants are found along the China / Vietnam border area in the Chinese region. Therefore, plants transferred from mainland China to Taiwan do not require CITES, per the convention, because they're considered the same country and instead of Vietnam, the vendors would only need documentation that it came from mainland China, which since they're the same country, means only that they need to say it came from China and the plants are artificially propagated. Flasks are exempt from CITES.?