Un-named Phrag

[SlipperFan]

Phrag. Sargeant Eric x caudatum v. warscewiczianum

The flower is larger than it looks in the photo. 9" (21.5 cm) tall x 6.75" (17 cm) wide -- measured from petal tips.

 

[Heather]

Nice dark color.

Is that what the tag reads, or are you just a super holdout!? oke:

 

[toddybear]

Lovely photo of a lovely cross!

 

[Kyle]

The besseae influence is completly gone. Not bad.

Kyle

 

[SlipperFan]

Nice dark color.

Is that what the tag reads, or are you just a super holdout!? oke:

Yes, that's what is on the tag. I checked the RHS site and Rob Z's site, and it hasn't yet been named. What would I be holding out for???

 

[kentuckiense]

Yes, that's what is on the tag. I checked the RHS site and Rob Z's site, and it hasn't yet been named. What would I be holding out for???

caudatum var. warscewiczianum (or just Phrag. warscewiczianum) is now "technically" Phrag. popowii, a change a lot of people disagree with. I think that is what Heather was referring to.

 

[Chuck]

As Kyle says, the besseae influence is gone. I think that is a little surprising. The longifolium is still apparent in the overall shape, the margin of the pouch and the edges of the petals and sepals. Strange, hey.

Chuck

 

[NYEric]

As Kyle says, the besseae influence is gone. I think that is a little surprising. Chuck

Oh mother of all things Holy!!! :sob:

 

[NYEric]

"I'm gravely dissappointed!" Humonculus from 'Road Warrior'

 

[SlipperFan]

caudatum var. warscewiczianum (or just Phrag. warscewiczianum) is now "technically" Phrag. popowii, a change a lot of people disagree with. I think that is what Heather was referring to.

You know, that's what I thought, also. But I respect Rob Z's phragweb quite a lot, and he still has it listed as caudatum var. warscewiczianum, and doesn't list popowii at all, that I could find. I know that Braem and Ohlund have reclassified these, but I wonder how it will all shake out eventually.

 

[Leo Schordje]

Hey Dot,
If the tag was correct I would expect to see an orange or yellow background as from the Sargeant Eric parent. The Sargeant Eric parent looks like a redder version of Eric Young. I would expect something on the lines of Bel Houge Point or Bouley Bay. Your flower looks more like Les Dirouilles (Sorcerer's Apprentice x Grande) for some similar hybrid. Is it possible the tag got mixed up before you bought it? I would definitely keep watering it, it looks nice.
Leo

 

[littlefrog]

I agree. Les Dirouelles or similar. I also can't see the Sergeant Eric in the background. A lot of phrags are coming out of Hawaii with implausible tags. Beautiful plants, but I don't think the help necessarily understands the necessity to keep things labeled.

It is beautiful, however.

 

[SlipperFan]

I must admit that I wondered about the tag. You are right, Leo and Rob -- the plant came from Hawaii, and I've seen many, many mislabeled plants from this particular grower.

Leo, maybe you have some influence with -- is he the owner, or just the hybridizer? He should care what comes from his place.