Stunning tangerine dallesandroi

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Can’t resist sharing these photos from an Australian Facebook page. Photo by Daniel Nolte (I think?). Has anyone seen this color before? Is it available from someone? Just wow.
 

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Looks like typical Phrag. d'alessandroi color to me. Here's a photo of our Phrag. d'alessandroi 'Fox Valley' CHM/AOS taken fifteen years ago for comparison. Guess you could call it tangerine?
 

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Tom, please check your monitor and/or eyes. Unretouched composite:

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Ray - Eyes (and monitor) are fine. Did you notice the original "tangerine" photo background is washed out? It's over-exposed......ergo the lighter flower color.
 

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Yes, I noticed the difference in exposure, but that is a black/white thing, whereas - to me - the flowers have more yellow in them than does yours.

Notice the base of the petals and edge of the lip opening - they are yellow, not white. If the color difference was 100% due to exposure and the colors are actually the same, those would be brighter white, wouldn't they?
 

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Here are two pictures of besseae "Maui" HCC/AOS. I think there may be something to the exposure/lighting being different and thus making this "tangerine" effect.
 

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Max - I'm not - completely - ruling out the exposure variable, but that leads me to new questions:

1) is that the same blossom, subsequent ones on the same spike or two different bloomings, or even two different clones? Culture can affect colors, with bright and cool usually allowing more red to develop.

2) If it IS the very same blossom, were the two photos taken with the same camera? Digital camera sensors have different spectral responses.

If your photos are of the very same blossom, taken using the same camera, with different lighting conditions, then by all means it's an exposure phenomenon. Otherwise, I doubt it.
 

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Ray - The "tangerine " photo is over-exposed. The black background should be black, not gray, if the exposure was correct . If it was black, the color would be less washed out and more like a typical Phrag. d'alessandroi.
 

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I reached out to the owner of Phragmipedium besseae "Maui" HCC/AOS:

"I was hoping you could provide insight into the coloring of the Phragmipedium besseae “Maui” HCC/AOS. I found these two pictures one from the original awarding of HCC/AOS and a second one from February 2017 at a show in Virginia. Someone had posted a picture of a besseae var. dalessandroi that has a coloring similar to the 2017 picture and I was wondering if it is a unique coloring or if just a matter of lighting and exposure. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated."

Response is below:

"Definitely lighting and exposure. Not at all accurate!"



I definitely appreciated having a community to debate the coloring on the original pictures. So begs the question if the "tangerine" was intentionally misleading or a happy accident when the picture was taken.
 
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In the tangerine picture, you can also see that the foliage is unhealthy color, not real green, it helps indicated wrong color setting etc
 

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