Roths

[tim]

Two nice ones from OZ with very wide petals:

2.4 cm PW, 28 cm NS

2.3 cm PW, 29 cm NS

 

[paphioboy]

Interesting. Recently saw some photos online of a new hybrid from Taiwan, paph Sunlight Rothschild = Lady Rothschild x roth, which looks very much like this.
Lady Rothschild = Lady Isabel x roth.
Lady Isabel = roth x stonei.

 

[Stone]

No way that's a roth. Things should be kept properly documented!

 

[cattmad]

No way that's a roth. Things should be kept properly documented!

Here we go, how many thousand Roths have you flowered to come up with your expert analysis that this is not a roth

 

[NYEric]

Interesting!

 

[Fabrice]

Probably roth. because I suppose OZ work selection is serious.

But I agree we can have doubt when we look at the form of petals.

One thing is sure, in my personal taste, I don't like this selection way!

 

[Justin]

That is silly. Amazing roths...

 

[emydura]

Looks like line bred roths to my eyes.

 

[Ozpaph]

why cant I see the photos?

 

[paphioland]

It is a roth. There is large variation in the petal stance. Size, staminode. Unless this is some crazy complex hybrid with tons of roth in the backround, it is a roth. Looks very much like a roth to me. I can smell it from here.

 

[paphioland]

Interesting. Recently saw some photos online of a new hybrid from Taiwan, paph Sunlight Rothschild = Lady Rothschild x roth, which looks very much like this.
Lady Rothschild = Lady Isabel x roth.
Lady Isabel = roth x stonei.

Look at their staminodes and sizes.

 

[Justin]

Yeah the closest this thing ever came to stonei is probably a few benches over...no stonei in the staminode it is clearly all roth

 

[Mocchaccino]

any ideas about the grexes of these two?

 

[tim]

Top one is 'Mighty' x 'Red Baron'; bottom one I'm not sure - didn't get that one.

 

[Fabrice]

As I told too, it's clearly a roth., not because I'm sure when I see this bloom but because all blooms from the breeding line are more and less similar and homogeneous. IF it was hybrid, some plants would have more Lady Isabel in it.

About some Lady roth. or Lady roth. x roth isolated, I challenge anyone to be affirmative it's not a roth.
Some years ago, I saw many plants of Sunlight roth. and 2 or 3 plants were exactly roths and could be sold like roths.

An example of the difficulties for some particular plants: http://www.orchids.com/Paph-Lady-Rothschild-rothschildianum-Fly-Eagle-AMAOS-x-Lady-Isabel-Norman-HCCAOS-P1279.aspx

 

[OR.O]

I just bought the same cross of the top one can't wait to see mine in bloom Very impressive Rothschildianum

 

[Ozpaph]

Im not a great fan of the very wide petals, but thats subjective. An impressive roth.

 

[Stone]

Really? I have just looked at about 100 pictures of roths and I would have thought you could tell a from a mile away that was a hybrid without need for closer examination. Sorry I didn't mean to step on any toes....

 

[Fabrice]

Staminode is good for identification but in the case of 2nd or 3rd generation of hybrids roths (Lady and Sunlight Roth.), some blooms will have exactly same staminode than roth.

 

[Ozpaph]

i think Oz are likely to have pretty good provenance on their breeding stock