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Roth fever

Discussion in 'Tell Me About It' started by AdamD, Mar 9, 2014.

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  1. Mar 9, 2014 #1

    AdamD

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    Am I the only one suffering from this at the moment? With all the roths we've seen here lately I can't help but find myself itching for more. I've started saving to buy a group of NBS roths and later a flask of the next generation. I've got it bad. Does anyone know of any publications on roths specifically?
     
  2. Mar 9, 2014 #2

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    Yea I read all of those too. Anything that caches on google I've read. Thanks though!
     
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    Uh oh!
     
  5. Mar 10, 2014 #5

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    You will continue to suffer in the next weeks because it's just the beginning of the roth. season! :rollhappy:

    For example, I have 12 roths in spike... :poke:

    But it's your chance to begin your collection now because roths are now less expensive (a little...) and with selection work, you can find seedlings with big potential and faster to grow.

    Be careful, rothschildianum is an incredible drug. :D
     
  6. Mar 10, 2014 #6

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    My total now is 11 roths and it ranges from NBS to multigrowth plants and I'm still looking at some crosses to add. I should really stop lol. :rollhappy:
     
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    Not possible...:evil::D
     
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    Now that I bloomed a Paph roth, I can see why this species can be just as addictive as Phal gigantea.
     
  9. Mar 11, 2014 #9

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    Did you see one of your plant's siblings went for $265 on eBay? I think you may have had some impact on the price considering the last sib went for about half that price...
    I know what you're thinking. No, it wasn't me. I didn't even bid oddly enough. I know how I want to fulfill my Roth craving and am saving up to do it right.

    But I wonder if the winner is on this forum?
     
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    I didn't bid on it either although I was watching it

    I can't help but wondering how the other sibling turn out. Surely some of them have already flowered.
     
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    I have 19 roths at the moment, the giant one is in spike now. Just ordered a flask from taiwan (bear x tiger) , one from the US (leo x new horizon) and a division from Belgium wich could produce flowers 40cm NS when multigrowth in the future. Roths are incredible!
     
  12. Mar 12, 2014 #12

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    I'm a bit of a roth addict as well. I have 22 roths of varying sizes although a few aren't in the best of health and might be a battle to grow on. I have only flowered two of these but I hope to flower another 2-3 next season. I'm looking forward to flower these newer darker clones in the future. They are just amazing.
     
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    I have a few (dozen or so) too. Had to fork out for some NFS imports as I cant wait for flasklings to grow up!
     
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    You should check out Orchid Inn seedling list of roths. He has a nice cross:

    Paph rothschildianum 'Mont Millais' x 'Perfection' at $60 with a leafspan of 20-24cm.

    Both parents are really dark and awarded with FCC
     
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    Yes, it could be a good choice.

    Mon Millais is an excellent roth for breeding. It prouves that since many years.

    For Perfection, what is a good roth. (but not at all the best from MM x Val), I would be more careful about potential breeding.
    At this time, I didn't see yet an awarded bloom from a cross with Perfection. Maybe is it too soon but I think TON have already bloomed several of them. And of course, I didn't see all pictures from this cross.
    I would be curious to see more.
     
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    @Emydura: Keep your calm! ;)
    I'm not affirmative. I just wanted to tell a very nice flower is not always a good parent.

    For example, lots of MM X Val are good and awarded but lots of are too not good because of Val.

    So, if you cross (MM x Val) X (MM x Val), you will have plants with Val characteristics while we search to obtain MM charactéristics. So, genetic is not sure.
    It's why I'm not a fanatic to buy this kind of crosses. But maybe I'm wrong.

    For the MM x Perfection, more chances to obtain MM characteristics. So, it could be a good choice with a little luck...

    PS: I tried too Perfection X Gigantic. ;)
     
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    Another example. My friend Paul bought some years ago "Knight Challenge x Titanic" to Sam.
    When I saw the parent, I told him "very very good choice!" I was very optimistic with this cross

    http://www.orchidweb.jp/orchidshow/kobe2002/blue_ribbon.htm

    http://www.orchid.or.jp/orchid/people/tanaka/InterOrShow/Hinuma/Hinuma03/enhinuma2.html

    2 are better than Perfection for me.

    Look at the result, not at all the parents level: http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17088

    All that to tell the best is to think about all possibilities and of course to buy in flasks to increase luck.

    PS: In this case, I supposed the plant was right labelled but it's not possible to check...
     
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    Depends what you like. In my view the breeding should not be just to replicate the homogeneous "flat, round, and dark" that judges love (and like you get with the MM progeny), but to create nuances like you get with Perfection. In my eyes the downswept petals of Perfection are very elegant.

    I too am eager to see how more seedlings bloom out. I have grown flasks of Rex x Perfection and Gigantic x Perfection that I hope will be nice, but still a couple years away for me.
     

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