Phrag. Mem Juan Alberto Arias

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    That’s exciting!
     
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    I have a photo of this cross which I just bloomed. I got flask from Peruflora on 5/15/15. Glad to send photo but not familiar with this forum. Contact me and I'll send photo.
     
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    This is a plant from a Peruflora flask purchased 5/15/15(6-5 (kovachii x (kovachii x Schlimii 'Hercules')). First one to bloom and initially thought it was the species kovachii because of the dark purple coloration. The size and shape are more the hybrid Juan Alberto Arais.
     

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    Thanks! mine is from the very same cross. Are you happy with it?
    Interesting colour and we can see the kovachi influenced yellow stripes on the inside of the lip.
    Do you think that the petals will increase in size?
    How big is the flower?
    David
     
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    ps Eric will want a full plant photo if you can do that,
    David
     
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    I'm growing my plants semi-hydro in LECA and the plant is in a 32oz. container. Not sure about posting here, so please let me know regarding what is appropriate or not. DSCN0406.JPG
    David
     
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    Ok many thanks! It’s interesting to see the flower and the relative size of the plant.
     
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    I’ve just taken a quick photo of mine. It’s quite a bit bigger. The flower stem is about 60cm or 2 feet high.
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    gotta love hybrid variability :)
     
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    So this bud is taking an age to open. It still growing and now about 3.5 cm long. It’s going to be one huge flower.
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    FWIW the bud looks very like a true kovachii. Time will tell,
    David
     
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    ........anticipation!
     
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    It’s finally starting to open!
    It’s nice when a naming mistake ends up in your favour!
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    I’m almost certain it is a straight kovachii. The bud is nearly 5cm long now,
    David
     
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    That would truly be a big score! Keep us posted!
     
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    Peruflora was the nursery i got this cross from too! about the same time as you.
     
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    I am looking at lots of pics and yes this looks like pure kovachii but you said it was from a flask?
     
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    Sorry about the various misconceptions but this plant came from Mark at Elite orchids about two years ago. Take a look at the photos from this morning. The plant is clearly a hybrid. The colour is a dull purple. Despite the big fat hairy bud the hybrid parentage now looks to be correct. The petals are nowhere near the size of a regular kovachii.
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    yes, we bought 2 or 3 from Manolo peruflora back around 2015
     
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    David, I hope you're not too disappointed. The
    flower looks spectacular and I'd love to see it
    fully open.
     
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    I’ll post again in a day or two. The petals are nothing like the size of a kovachii but overall it is very different from other hybrids I grow and it is going to be one huge flower, even with the smaller petals. The flower colour is still a strong dull purple.
    if someone breeds a clone of this grex with big petals then it would be a true monster. It may need another back cross to kovachii to make this happen,
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