Paris CLimate Accord

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  1. Jun 1, 2017 #1

    ehanes7612

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    Pulling out probably wont affect anything on the homefront with regards to decreasing levels...the desire to reduce carbon dioxide levels is reaching a significant level to where the opposing mentality wont hinder the process. A growing number of people want their products from cleaner sources. But with China being the major influence in Asia (what is important about China is not their current levels of CO2 emissions but that they are committed to easing off coal..and people will perceive this as leadership) and Europe moving ahead with PCA, which is already seen as a leader in Climate Change awareness, what does that leave the US?. Well, no surprise here...we all knew this would happen...but whether or not the US decreases their output of CO2 emissions the perception of US withdraw will do more harm to our global influence...and may hurt our ability to export our goods..therefore we lose jobs...but hey, the guy who has filed three bankruptcies knows best (well, he knows how to stay rich)

    What's weird is that the PCA is not a binding agreement, pulling out only gives us the perception to the rest of the world that we dont give a **** (well, except to our allies, Syria and Nicaragua)

    So by pulling out of the agreement, with polls that 7 out of ten Americans disagree with pulling out (as well as almost half Trump supporters)...it will be interesting to see how Republicans line up on this one..come reelection time

    Anyway, Trump is a lost cause .. everything he does digs a deeper hole for himself and his administration .. there is no point in bashing him anymore ... there just comes a time to let the village idiot just be.. the rest of the village can just work around him
     
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    Why, we will save millions of American jobs by exporting our coal. Anyone want to leave their rough jobs for some easy mining work?
     
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    yeah, and the world is definitely not laughing at us anymore..We showed them with our coal ..we have so much coal, it's insane!!
     
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    anyway, New York , California and Washington announced they will be forming a coalition to uphold the PCA..I am sure more states will join..and more jobs will created in these states than in states who wont join..because innovators and companies wont want to work with Governors who snub their nose to green technologies.
     
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    Coal production in the USA has never been higher. Neither has automation. Those jobs are never, ever coming back.

    If China and India do continue with their progressive policies then the global demand for coal will go down, along with the prices. Now more than ever it is vital that the USA use their position to invest in green energy, before China especially, corners the market.

    I guess it's no surprise when you have Rex Tillerson (ex EXXmobile) as the secretary of state.

    #DrainTheSwamp
     
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    Coal jobs are definitely not coming back but that's not necessarily because coal is doing THAT poorly. In fact, China may not necessarily be decreasing their use of coal for a while (energy capacity was set to increase 19 (?) percent over the last few years), the EIA predicts that they will increase consumption into 2021 I believe but definitely not returning to their peak levels from a few years back. The current drop in consumption may have been caused by the recent glut they had for a while but in the long run, they will certainly decrease their consumption of coal while increasing renewables among other energy sources.
    The only way to really save the US coal industry was if the US had built coal export terminals on the west coast a few years ago. Those were all systematically blocked by the people living in the areas that would be affected by the dust and pollution coming off these terminals. Now it may just be too little too late for them, even with Trump's help

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    From what I read, Tillerson was against pulling out.
     
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    Tillerson was in support of the Paris Agreement.
     
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    i think we are seeing a real growing divide within the administration between the isolationists and the globalists...isolationists are going to lose..too much momentum
     
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