Paph William Ambler 'Tassie Dazzler' AM/AOC

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Second time I have flowered this clone and a significant improvement on the first. A really tall spike (85 cm) for such a small plant. This should look great when the plant increases in size.


Paph William Ambler 'Tassie Dazzler' AM/AOC

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I am the opposite. I think Tassie Dazzler is the better clone. It has the higher award. The flowers are pretty similar but the spike is taller with better spaced flowers in Tassie Dazzler.

How many flowers were on the Karob at TAPS. I have yet to get more than 3. Tassie Dazzler was awarded with 4.
 
Your plant looks real great and well grown...and congrats on the flowering! :clap:

With that said, my horrible, speciesist leaning starts to stir: why bother with this sort of hybrid, when both rothschildianum and wilhelminae in their own right are so much more beautiful? You could have had, yet, one more excellent roth clone, or two more wilhelminaes in the space, this plant occupies?! :evil: :evil:

Kind regards,
Jens
 
I wish Sam would remake this cross with the new generation roths etc

I agree with that. Imagine a William Ambler with roth 'King Kong' as the parent. Even darker flowers of bigger size with a higher flower count. I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Susan Booth as well with the biggest praestans clone.
 
With that said, my horrible, speciesist leaning starts to stir: why bother with this sort of hybrid, when both rothschildianum and wilhelminae in their own right are so much more beautiful? You could have had, yet, one more excellent roth clone, or two more wilhelminaes in the space, this plant occupies?! :evil: :evil:

Kind regards,
Jens

I completely disagree with you. William Ambler is a great hybrid that brings out the best of both species. You get the superb form, size and majesty of the rothschildianum parent and the dark chocolate colour, tall spike and well-spaced flowers of wilhelminiae. And the plant can be pretty compact as well. It is so easy to grow, certainly easier than the species. It is a worthy addition to any collection.

I think your dislike of these hybrids has nothing to do with beauty and all to do with philosophy. It makes no sense to say that you love both the species but the intermediate hybrid is unattractive. The hybrid is a variation of the same thing combining the best attributes of each species. I can understand you not liking the look of complex hybrids as they are far removed from the species. But a primary hybrid like this is little removed from the species. If this was a natural hybrid would you still dislike the look of the flowers?

Here is my other William Ambler ('Karob') where the flowers present a bit better in a photo and my wilhelminiae that unfortunately is in the great glasshouse in the sky (much harder to grow). I love both. I can't see why you would think the wilhelminiae is much nicer. They are different enough to warrant growing both. The wilhelminiae is cute but the flowers are very tiny. I have 80 rotshchildianum (most are seedlings), so I can have bench space for other things as well.


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Creating such a hybrid as William Ambler can lead to other wonderful crosses -

Paph William Ambler x sanderianum

http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28738

http://www.slippertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14720


Paph William Ambler x rothschildianum

https://www.facebook.com/SlipperOrc...888101571979/1751263904940599/?type=1&theater


If I was just restricted to multi-floral species, it would be a less interesting hobby. There aren't a lot of options. Growing hybrids greatly expands my collection enabling me to grow a greater variety of morphologically different Paphs. Some of the hybrids produce flower traits that are just not possible in the species alone.

In the end, I would prefer to be in my shoes where I get enjoyment out of growing hybrids. There is nothing positive to be gained from disliking things. :)
 
Your photo of William Ambler 'Karob' is the clinching argument for the case of the defence...it's a beautiful hybrid....and I bow in deference!

I count myself lucky, that we didn't meet in court, as the ruling probably would have been, that the costs were to be paid by me! :D

All rise - and all the best!
Jens
 

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