Paph. Rosina or Schaetzchen

[Damas]

Good morning folks ! I came across this plant this week-end in a gardner shop. Charlesworthii is obvious. After surfing around a while I guess this could be a Rosita (callosum x charlesworthii) as well as a Schaetzchen (Maudiae x charlesworthii).
From your experience, do you have an opinion ?
Flower is kind of big, 11cm width and 10cm height, foliage is light green, with light tesselation marking, its shape looks a lot charleswothii, but not as thin as charlesworthii :

 

[Bolero]

That purple dorsal is stunning. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Roy]

Either one, I don't think anyone could challange it.

 

[Yoyo_Jo]

Very cool color combination. :clap:

 

[Damas]

Thank you ! I like it too
Does someone has an opinion which could help determine whether it is a Rosita or a Schaetzchen ?

 

[goldenrose]

Either one, I don't think anyone could challange it.

as Roy indicated, I don't think you're going to be able to say it's one or the other, they're way to similar!

 

[toddybear]

WOW! Wish our garden shops brought in orchids like that!

 

[Candace]

Tag it a noname. And maybe scold your florist/garden center (nicely) and maybe they will be more particular about getting in plants with no labels.

 

[Damas]

Yes Candace, I'll tag it "x charlesworthii" just to spot it.
Regarding the garden center, I am afraid, they won't be of any help: it was sort of tagged but in a very generic way. The tag says :
"Sabot de Venus, Paphiopedilum. Flowering time : depends on species, flower size: depends on species, blah blah blah: depends on species" and a coloratum is pictured on the tag.
There was several different hybrids in the orchid corner, all mixed together, all with the same tag as the paph I took : I recognized at least Dellophyllum, Pinocchio, Clair de Lune Maudiae type, Coloratum, Vinis type, etc.
Mine was one of a kind.
So I believe the garden center bought a bunch of them from some big prod in Deutchland, and just sell them nonames. I don't think they care/know the difference

 

[SlipperFan]

Very pretty with good form. Probably the only way you'd know for sure is if you could contact the people who sold it to your garden center.

 

[biothanasis]

Yes Candace, I'll tag it "x charlesworthii" just to spot it.
Regarding the garden center, I am afraid, they won't be of any help: it was sort of tagged but in a very generic way. The tag says :
"Sabot de Venus, Paphiopedilum. Flowering time : depends on species, flower size: depends on species, blah blah blah: depends on species" and a coloratum is pictured on the tag.
There was several different hybrids in the orchid corner, all mixed together, all with the same tag as the paph I took : I recognized at least Dellophyllum, Pinocchio, Clair de Lune Maudiae type, Coloratum, Vinis type, etc.
Mine was one of a kind.
So I believe the garden center bought a bunch of them from some big prod in Deutchland, and just sell them nonames. I don't think they care/know the difference

I guess this is a common practice in Europe, cause things are pretty much the same here in Greece, too!!!!! I thank God that they even brink such plants here in Greece! But you are lucky to have some nursery growers or proper importers over there!!! There is noone here!

 

[Damas]

@SlipperFan : I'll try to find out next week-end !

@biothanasis : this is kind of new, only a couple of years ago, you could not find paphs in garden shops here. So I guess, it will spread ! Let's say today, France is still closer from Netherland than Greece

@toddybear : I think garden shops in France are the recycle bins of big prods. I was lucky, it's not so often that you can find a nice plant, I mean a plant that you could have found in your usual orchids dealer's greenhouse. First time of my life I bought a Paph from a garden shop !

 

[biothanasis]

Let's say today, France is still closer from Netherland than Greece

Lucky you!!!!!