Discussion in 'Paphiopedilum' started by Edward Seeley, May 7, 2019.
A Maudiae hybrid I assume.
Very nice. This is what I'm always hoping for when I buy a vini seedling or flask, but they are never as nice. Mike
Yes it's a Maudiae, Ozpaph.
Mike, it was an eBay purchase that is exactly as it was pictured so that's a bonus!
Better than most of the more modern vini's you'll find today. Very nice!
This cannot be straight Maudiea, lawrenceanum x callosum.
The leaves, flower (shape, color, dorsal color and patterns, the staminode, petals and everything) indicate that this has charlesworthii mixed in its genetic make up.
Nice. Maybe some light on the DS to show the texture.
It is a charlesworthii hybrid for the reasons Happypaphy7 indicates. That's why I commented.
Can you show the label, please?
The label just says Paphiopedilum Black Jack. Orchid Roots has Black Jack listed as a Maudiae Vinicolor and the photo on there is a pretty good match.
Does DS mean dorsal septum? If so, happy to post a better lit photo of that this evening (UK time!). There is faint striping so a charlesworthii involvement wouldn't surprise me too much.
This name of orchid is offered by a few sellers over here and it's not expensive (this was about £15 flowering size) so some nursery is cranking them out.
so the only 'maudiae type' "Black Jack" is Paph. Hsinying Black Jack (Paph. Black Cherry x Paph. Laser). It could be that, a complex Maudiae type. But it does look to have charlesworthii in it.
I think they are selling vinicoloured Maudiae type flowers ie not pure Maudiaes.
Possibly P. charlesworthii x P. Maudiae vinicolor which is actually P. Schaetzchen. In Google you can find a lot of sites(mostly european) calling this type of cross P. Black Jack and they are clearly charlesworthii x vinicolor crosses. The Black Jack seems to be more of a catchy generic promotional name.
Sorry for the slight delay but here are some more photos. I've shot these with flash and some in daylight and flash so quite over-exposed to show some underlying features.
Can certainly see traits that could be Charlesworthii.
Yep, Charlie hybrid with those last pics
Fantastic colour congrats
The colour of this flower is extraordinary, very impressive.
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