Paph. Maudiae Vinicolor 'Black Jack'

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  1. May 7, 2019 #1

    Edward Seeley

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    Stunning colour.
    A Maudiae hybrid I assume.
     
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    Very nice. This is what I'm always hoping for when I buy a vini seedling or flask, but they are never as nice. Mike
     
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    Thanks guys.

    Yes it's a Maudiae, Ozpaph.

    Mike, it was an eBay purchase that is exactly as it was pictured so that's a bonus!
     
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    Better than most of the more modern vini's you'll find today. Very nice!
     
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    This cannot be straight Maudiea, lawrenceanum x callosum.
    The leaves, flower (shape, color, dorsal color and patterns, the staminode, petals and everything) indicate that this has charlesworthii mixed in its genetic make up.
    Very pretty! :)
     
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    Nice. Maybe some light on the DS to show the texture.
     
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    It is a charlesworthii hybrid for the reasons Happypaphy7 indicates. That's why I commented.
    Can you show the label, please?
     
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    The label just says Paphiopedilum Black Jack. Orchid Roots has Black Jack listed as a Maudiae Vinicolor and the photo on there is a pretty good match.

    Does DS mean dorsal septum? If so, happy to post a better lit photo of that this evening (UK time!). There is faint striping so a charlesworthii involvement wouldn't surprise me too much.

    This name of orchid is offered by a few sellers over here and it's not expensive (this was about £15 flowering size) so some nursery is cranking them out.
     
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    so the only 'maudiae type' "Black Jack" is Paph. Hsinying Black Jack (Paph. Black Cherry x Paph. Laser). It could be that, a complex Maudiae type. But it does look to have charlesworthii in it.
    I think they are selling vinicoloured Maudiae type flowers ie not pure Maudiaes.
     
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    Possibly P. charlesworthii x P. Maudiae vinicolor which is actually P. Schaetzchen. In Google you can find a lot of sites(mostly european) calling this type of cross P. Black Jack and they are clearly charlesworthii x vinicolor crosses. The Black Jack seems to be more of a catchy generic promotional name.
     
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    20190509_193501-1.jpg 20190509_193530-1.jpg 20190509_193646-1.jpg 20190509_193709-1.jpg Sorry for the slight delay but here are some more photos. I've shot these with flash and some in daylight and flash so quite over-exposed to show some underlying features.
    Can certainly see traits that could be Charlesworthii.
     
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    Yep, Charlie hybrid with those last pics
     
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    good flower.
    NOID, unfortunately.
     
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    Fantastic colour congrats
     
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    Super Vinci!
     
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    The colour of this flower is extraordinary, very impressive.
     
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