Paph. kolopakingii forma katherinae

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  1. Jul 24, 2007 #1

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    O.K. can someone please explain why the plant featured in the newest Orchid Digest Magazine, is not simply named Paph. kolopakingii forma(or variety) alba, album etc? Why in the world is an alba variety named katherinae(after his daughter)?

    I think these names are why people are so confused with orchid nomenclature in general. IMHO if the owner wanted to recognize his daugther then he should have given it a clonal name of 'Katherine'.

    Can't we just name an alba an alba and call it a day?
     
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    whose daughter?
     
  4. Jul 25, 2007 #4

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    The article says the alba plant is William Ellenberg's and it's named for his daughter Katherine Mae. Paph. kolopakingii forma katherinae......

    And I don't understand why it's not forma or var. alba. with a clonal name of 'Katherine'....
     
  5. Jul 25, 2007 #5

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    If the album form was first validly published as f. katherinae, then it is the correct name. Album/flavum/aureum/etc forms don't necessarily have to be named f. album/flavum/aureum/etc.
     
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    I agree - that would make sense to me!
     
  7. Jul 25, 2007 #7
    Indeed !

    Remember what Jean Cocteau wrote : "Those mysteries are beyond us, let's pretend we created them".
    Happy growing
    Frederick
     
  8. Jul 25, 2007 #8
    Good one Fredrick - it's all in our attitude & how we look at things!
     
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    In reality this not an alba or album flower. A true alba is completely white, and this plant is albinistic (devoid of anthocyanins) which is expressed as white and green/yellow.

    There are many albinistic flowers that are named after people: P. Lawrenceanum hyeanum, P. Curtisii sanderae, and P. Venustum measuresianum (not venustum alba(um))

    Many people carelessly use the term alba to describe albinistic flowers of many different color combinations, and it's botanically incorrect. Albino paphs
    can be yellow, green, white and combinations of these colors. Pure albas are seen primarily in brachypetalums, and even those can have green or yellow on the staminode.
     
  10. Jul 25, 2007 #10

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    Hmmm. Interesting.
     
  11. Jul 28, 2007 #11

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    And here some more official names
    Paph. fairrieanum forma bohlmannianum
    Paph. armeniacum forma markii
    Paph. micranthum forma glanzeanum
    Paph. charlesworthii forma sandowiae
    Paph. fowlie forma christianae
    Paph. hennisianum forma christianseniaum
    Paph. javanicum forma nymphenburgianum

    and so on.
    It is the right of the describer to give the name if you like it or not. But it is also usual that the owner of the type-plant proposed a name.

    It should be also usual to use these official names.

    Best greetings

    OLaf
     
  12. Jul 28, 2007 #12
    This one I love--how hilariously funny! Easy to remember--needs at least 3 tags to identify it--impresses the Joneses--probably looks like something the cat has just dragged in--worth piles of money--blooms once in a blue moon. THE perfect species for serious collectors (with the added bonus of a sexual innuendo for dirty old men : "Do you mean a whole burg full of nymphs? Where is it?".)
    Happy naming
    Frederick
     
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    Nymphenburg is a part of Munic in Bavaria in Germany. Here is an outstanding Botanical Garden with a good orchidcollection. Here the albine form of Paph. javanicum came the first time in flower and the Botanical Garden proposed the name.

    Best greetings

    Olaf
     
  14. Jul 28, 2007 #14
    Thanks Olaf--I knew. Nymphenburg is also the name of a world-famous porcelain manufactory dating back to the early 18th C and of course of a beautiful chateau. I was only joking.
    Yours
    Frederick
     
  15. Jul 28, 2007 #15

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    Taxonomy is a thankless job!!! Give 'em a break!

    -Ernie
     
  16. Jul 28, 2007 #16

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    I'm with Candace on this one.

    I think the first whack at a name should be descriptive or at least give a collection locality

    People get more than their fare share of coming up with new things in this world already.
     

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