Paph. Hsinying Cherry x Paph. Hsinying Maru

[wilbeck]

Out of curiosity, I went to the RHS website and looked up the ancestry of my Paph. Hsinying Cherry x Paph. Hsinying Maru “Ching Hua.” The plant has more relatives and a better documented heritage than I do! If a hybrid has no "name," does that indicate it has not been registered? Here is a picture of it:

Wilson

 

[smartie2000]

yup it's not registered yet. Many complexes and maudiaes aren't all registered

 

[likespaphs]

i'd say that it depends. it could just be someone lost the tag...
(i'm such a card...)

 

[toddybear]

Maudiae and sukhakulii hybrids have been backcrossed so many times that the parents become their own grandpas!

 

[wilbeck]

Are primary hybrids automatically registered? Here is a Paph. primulum x Paph. philippiense, purchased recently from my local pusher which doesn't have a name on the label, just the primary parents:

Wilson

 

[Heather]

That's Paph. Honey.
Registered in 1978 by Cryder.

The person who breeds the cross (or owns it, with the breeder's permission) has to register a hybrid name. It isn't automatic for primaries or other crosses.

 

[wilbeck]

Oops, I mis-spelled 'primulinum.' I notice on the RHS that for 'Honey' the seed parent is P. philippiense and the pollen parent is P. primulinum. Does that make any difference in the registration?

 

[Heather]

Oops, I mis-spelled 'primulinum.' I notice on the RHS that for 'Honey' the seed parent is P. philippiense and the pollen parent is P. primulinum. Does that make any difference in the registration?

Nope, either way around, still makes the cross Paph. Honey.

 

[wilbeck]

Thanks Heather.

 

[smartie2000]

Nope, either way around, still makes the cross Paph. Honey.

I read somewhere that it does matter who was a pod parent and pollen parent.... but your the 'grex whore'

 

[Heather]

I'm pretty sure that the hybrid name is unchanged by the reversal of the pod/pollen parents. For example, roth x lowii is Julius, and lowii x roth is still Julius. It may be more influenced by the first parent, but it's still the same hybrid.

By all means though, if I'm wrong, someone correct me please!

 

[slippertalker]

I'm pretty sure that the hybrid name is unchanged by the reversal of the pod/pollen parents. For example, roth x lowii is Julius, and lowii x roth is still Julius. By all means though, if I'm wrong, someone correct me please!

The name is the same regardless of which is the pod or pollen parent. The product could be a bit different as a result of the maternal influence of the pod parent. It would be interesting to see a comparison of both versions.

 

[smartie2000]

ok thanks i can name a one of my maudiaes then and maybe a few others maybe I read it wrong...yes the offspring can be different which is quite interesting!