SlipperKing
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Paph amabile 'Charles' AM xself
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I love that color combination.
wow super tall!
Nice one ...KEW Science lists Paph. amabile as synonym to Paphiopedilum bullenianum var. bullenianum
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The Charles clone is an old one. I'm thinking/wondering if this clone was Charles "Doc" Emerson's plant. If so, that would make it 30+ years ago. Many paphs had different names back then.
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That is really nice. That is a color combination that I've not seen before.
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Love those droopy ears!
love it. good combo of color
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Nice. Thanks for sharing.
deeply enjoyable! Thank you for serving us whole-plant realness!
The appletonianum complex sure is confusing…. Looks nothing like my awarded bullenianum but still a cute flower, whatever the name.
SlipperKing
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I know, right? I need to take a look in Burk's first edition.
I looked at one example and the petal spots were few and large not small peppered like mine. The staminodes were total different.
I looked at one example and the petal spots were few and large not small peppered like mine. The staminodes were total different.
Look what a stem!
Nice!
Nice!
SlipperKing
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Ok, so I looked up the flower and minimal description in Burke's first edition. It fits perfectly with his flower picture and non existence description for amabile. He clearly is a splitter and the book is 30+ years old. He claims the species was found on one mountain top but predicted it would be on others. He wasn't able to look more areas for the species and if anyone else has visited this area it hasn't been documented that I know of. So modern day man is still left with a mess in the bull and apple complex! We may never know the lineage.
This is the P. amabile that I got from Sam. It doesn’t look anything like this one.
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love the pink and green petals
SlipperKing
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That looks like a beautiful example of a bullenianum. Your petals aren't as twisted as Burke's pictured example
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My comments posted above in #14 were based on a picture in Burke's book that turns out to be misleading
Now thumbing through Burke's 2nd edition he drops the concept of amabile all together and calls the plant I have robinsonii (he had robinsonii in 1st ed as well). bullenianum is still bullenianum.
Now thumbing through Burke's 2nd edition he drops the concept of amabile all together and calls the plant I have robinsonii (he had robinsonii in 1st ed as well). bullenianum is still bullenianum.
I love this group of paphiopedilums, but separating them out is a daunting task. The leaves of Sam’s amabile are distinctive from most other appletonianum types that I have seen. Orchids Ltd. called this type true amabile. I do not know how they arrived at this conclusion.
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It is really difficult here with the used names. There were mixed many names in the literature, the collections and also in trade. It is clear that Paph. amabile is only a synonym of Paph. bullenianum. But very often these plants were sold as amabile. As difference was seen the staminode. But especially in bullenianum and appletonianum the staminode is very variabel.
Paph. robinsonii is only a synonym of Paph. cerveranum or better appletonianum var. cerveranum. Here a typical clone of.
Paph. robinsonii is only a synonym of Paph. cerveranum or better appletonianum var. cerveranum. Here a typical clone of.
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