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I used to post occasionally in the other slipper forum, but hadn't for a few months. Then when I did try to log on, I found I was blocked from doing so. So I guess I'm not there anymore at all.

Which brings me to a question for Heather. If someone doesn't log on for several months, or a year, or whatever, is that person still a member? Or would they be blocked?

No, I have no intention of leaving here...:D
 

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Nope, unless you're an obvious spammer (have a totally bogus address or name and ip and logged in one day and never again) we'd leave you registered. We do get a LOT of spam registrations every day. If ever anyone thinks they've been deleted incorrectly, please be sure to contact us using the link in the header. It has been known to happen. Speaking to that, I'd encourage new users to post to at least introduce yourself so we know you are legit. We had a recent issue where I deleted someone because I thought the email was bogus and it wasn't. Most of the spammers have gobbledegook usernames though and are easy to spot. Especially if the word "drugs" or "phentamine" are involved. :rolleyes:
However, sometimes, someone legit gets deleted by accident.

At any rate, of course, anyone who has logged in once and never returned, but who I KNOW, I never delete.

It can be done though, Dot, so it is certainly possible that you were "pruned" over there for posting here and not there over time.

*Edit* Our newest member would be a good example of what I was talking about above with regards to gobbledegook names.
 

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How do you figure out who our newest member is?

I have tried in the past to register at the other forum as well, using the same name, and was never approved. I was a member here first, and have always wondered if I was blackballed for comments I made. Probably just my paranoia.
This has always been my favored forum, and though I occasionally look at the other place, I don't think I need two memberships right now.
I have noticed once, after a period of inactivity, I had to re-sign in, but it may have been a problem with cookies in my computer rather than being deleted, and once I remembered my access code, I had no trouble getting back in here.

I have to hand it to all the administrators who work so tirelessly to keep this place going.
I have problems just reading the treads I am interested in, so it is a great service they all do for us to monitor the spammers and pay the bills and chime in regularly on topics.

You guys are the best!.....OK group hug!
 

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How do you figure out who our newest member is?
Go to the forum Home page and way down at the bottom you'll see a welcome to our newest member_________ (name inserted) Right now it happens to be a spam name. And it was an easy one to spot since his e-mail was pornman(at whatever.com). For every one true member that registers, I'd say we get at least 20 that are fakes. Most of the time we delete them, but sometimes they can be extra sneaky and get through to post something, which is then deleted.
 
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That "other forum" is the reason that this forum exists in the first place! And although I am still a member of that forum, I don't even bother to go there anymore. Since the creation of this forum, (and I was in on it from the beginning and was one of the earliest members) I have been only occasionally able to post on "that" forum...and I am completely blocked from PM's. It is so bad on "that" forum that I actually had to post responses on this forum to questions posted there...because my responses weren't being posted....No question, this forum is the best! (And I'm fine with the world seeing that.....) Take care, Eric
 

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I couldn't seem to be able to join that forum. I needed special permission because I have a hotmail account. So I gave up. I think I can get all the information that I may need here, and the people are nice here and there are even those who have a sense of humor.

This place seems more of an extended family.
 

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The answer to my question is yes, there is a way to make this area of the forums viewable only to registered subscribers. Will it ever happen, hopefully it will some day to avoid search engine bots ending up in non-technical areas.

Sadly, it appears there are an incredible number of people out there who are beyond intimidated by The Powers That Be over at the other site and want everything open over here as a direct result of what ever transpired in the past. Sheesh, if they want to read without having their loyalties questioned by (gasp, dare I say it... registering over here) they could probably ask a friend over here to cut and paste and send them anything of interest. It's not that hard, even I know how to cut and paste and forward and it would stop a lot of search engine bots if people had to register to read what's in off-topic areas.

No time to respond to every e-mail and pm because I am going to be leaving soon but here's a basic recap and really sorry if I exceed anyone's comfort level with my take on all of this but I'd really prefer to be open like Eric M as opposed to responding privately- I've been told not to be surprised if I am banned from that site as a result of my comments in this thread. It has been suggested that if I am not banned, my PMing over there may be monitored or disabled and that any posts I attempt to make may be routed to a moderator first for review. Pretty much I am to expect to suffer the same fate as Eric M. Sheesh, how many of you are there that this has happened to? Should this come to fruition for me based on what I posted here, my non-professional opinion would be the "Powers That Be" over at that site are in serious need of some nice warm Egg Nog laced with Carbamazepine. Possibly seasoned with some Bupropion hydrochloride and Lithium carbonate. Stirred well and made in advance in quantity so they could drink a few a day for the next few months to level out.

Oh horrors, what will I do... what will I do... what will I do if I am banned or hobbled from posting at a site I registered at for the sole purpose of reading a few posts as well as to get an exclusive SOF members discount on plants? Sheesh, I have difficulty believing the "Powers That Be" over there would stiff their own vendors out of future sales by banning or hobbling somebody like me so I can't read the sales threads but I suppose anything seems possible given the earful I've just received.

My wish for everyone is that all enjoy a Happy New Year and a Very Merry Christmas to all those who celebrate that holiday.

Be safe, Be well!
 

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You may have a valid point there. I just realized that when you follow the link from your e-mail to an updated thread without being logged on, you show up as a visitor or a guest. It's not until you go to reply to a thread that the computer prompts you to log on. When I go to check e-mail, I read the threads that have had responses but don't log on until I am asked to do so or in other words until I want to post.

I still say toss some stumbling blocks out to the bots!
 

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I used to post occasionally in the other slipper forum, but hadn't for a few months. Then when I did try to log on, I found I was blocked from doing so. So I guess I'm not there anymore at all.

Which brings me to a question for Heather. If someone doesn't log on for several months, or a year, or whatever, is that person still a member? Or would they be blocked?

No, I have no intention of leaving here...:D
What's the deal behind that??? I joined both around the same time when I started bidding on paph. phil 'candor red streamers on ebay" an then started researching and found a thread saying it wasnt real. (thank you btw) What is it that people are doing that turns Peter off?
 
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What turns Peter off is the easy question......what turns him on has never been answered...........................
 

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What is it that people are doing that turns Peter off?
Gee, I dunno, posting here and not there, perhaps?
Seems pretty obvious to me. Candace becomes an admin here and suddenly all her posts have to be "checked" before they are posted?

Come on, we all know Pete reads this forum. That's one of the interesting things about keeping it open to all, actually.

Honestly, this is all such old news that gets dredged up occasionally and I'm quite tired of it. We've a successful forum which I, personally, am very proud of because it is different from SOF, and I find much more interesting than SOF.

I am locked out of all the private forums because I am not a registered user and that's fine, but I bet there are conversations just like this going on over there in the private forums and I don't care to know about them because it, and Pete, are a waste of my time. It's over. Move on. Post where and what you want but I'm not planning on making these forums private at this time based on the reason this forum was started and the majority of the comments posted in this thread.
 

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Update, I went to go log on over at Slipper Orchid Forum. First thing I noticed was that there was no area visible any longer for private messages. Gee, coulda sworn that was there when I registered and logged on the first time.

Gets better, went to go check the area for members and received this notice:

TheLorax, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Then I went to check my e-mail to see if I had been activated back when I originally registered and yup, sure enough... I had been activated:
Dear TheLorax,

We have now activated your account at the The Slipper Orchid Forum - The First Online Slipper Orchid Discussion Forum. The forums can be found here:

http://www.slipperorchidforum.com/forum/index.php

Your login details are as follows:
Username: TheLorax
Password: as you entered it when you registered

Don't forget that your password is case sensitive.

To edit your profile, please visit this page:
http://www.slipperorchidforum.com/forum/profile.php?do=editprofile

All the best,
The Slipper Orchid Forum - The First Online Slipper Orchid Discussion Forum
Hmmm, I thought. Surely this must be a mistake so I went to post just to see if I could... I mean I was logged on and was really excited about making my first post because well... "Sheesh, I have difficulty believing the "Powers That Be" over there would stiff their own vendors out of future sales by banning or hobbling somebody like me so I can't read the sales threads..." But sure enough, this is what I got when I tried to post-
TheLorax, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
I couldn't help but notice their automated message included this, "If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account...". Let's see; SlipperFan, Eric Muehlbauer, Me, plus quite a few others who don't want to come out of the closet have apparently been stripped of privileges or had their accounts disabled and my guess is that if a forum has to place what is quoted above in an automated message, there are countless others.

Oh woe is me, I won't ever be able to buy plants at the exclusive discounted sales rate offered by their vendors to SOF members again. Will somebody please hold my hand and offer me a tissue please. Group hug, ok :D
 

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Oh woe is me, I won't ever be able to buy plants at the exclusive discounted sales rate offered by their vendors to SOF members again.
Actually, I don't know whose sale you were referring to that you were interested in, but I think almost all the sponsors over there have vendor forums here and they always post the same specials here as over there, they just do it for free.

I think Tom Kalina is the only one who is not a member here. And we have quite a few who are not members there.
 

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Oops, my bad. I shouldn't have used the word vendor because evidently that means over at SOF you must pay to play where over here anyone who sells orchids or anything orchid related can be a vendor. I do know that there are three people out there who sell orchids and/or orchid supplies who claimed they weren't members over here for a multitude of reasons who were familiar with my posts which I found really strange and sort of creepy. I suspect this is the underlying reason, "Come on, we all know Petey reads this forum".

I don't know who all of their sponsors are or aren't and I certainly don't know who all of their vendors are or the people they have over there who aren't over here selling plants or supplies who aren't official paying sponsors/vendors or whatever the deal is that they've got going on. I truly only went over there to register to be legitimate to take advantage of ONE sale and I guess I'll just have to live without future discounts by buying from what ever I see here that tickles my fancy. I don't know who Tom Kaluna is or isn't. I've not been around long enough to match up names of people with their nurseries or garden centers. I know Enlightened Orchids is Ernie's nursery and that Leo and Rob have nurseries but couldn't tell you the name of their nurseries and then there's Oak Hill, ParOBek Orchids, Windy Hill, and Gore Conservatory with Gore Conservatory being one I can match up with a full name easily from his upbeat posts here and him I'll definitely buy from sooner or later to green it up even more around my home. Then there are a decent number of garden centers selling orchid supplies, small cottage nurseries, hobbyists, and little start-ups selling plants and supplies and they may be over here registered under a different name but are claiming not to be. Now toss in people like Terry Partin and a few others who I know their names but don't know the names of their nurseries or whether they are here by SlipperTalk or not and it really gets all too confusing for me matching all these people up with all the names of their businesses not to mention all the nurseries selling orchids that are in HI that I have bought from that aren't over here at SlipperTalk... or are they under a name I wouldn't recognize.

In my opinion, the Admin at the SOF is no different than a gal who was an Admin at an online cat forum who hobbled anyone who openly admitted to declawing a cat and who went into people's private messages to see who was declawing and who wasn't. She supposedly registered at a bunch of other pet forums under different names to ferret out feline infidels because most people do use the same user name when they sign up so they're easy to spot. She also allegedly had little faithful followers who were registering under different names who would bait people to get them to admit to having declawed a cat who would "phone home to momma" after unearthing the ever so dreaded "truth". Then those people were hobbled at her forum and blacklisted from adopting cats from "her" most favored shelter list. As if people aren't smart enough go to the next shelter to adopt a cat and declaw it if they see fit. It was all insanely laughable and I'm told she went off the deep end when she learned most of her members had long known of her little obsessive habit of regularly going into people's private messages so had taken their correspondences out from under her watchful eye to the telephone or e-mail in favor of posting only that which would earn them brownie points with her in their private messages. Oh Lordie Lordie Lordie Lordie! Tell me this scenario isn't sounding oddly familiar? Can you imagine the time element involved for an Admin to read all the posts at their own forum AND private messages let alone all the posts at someone else's forum while tossing correspondences into the mix from faithful followers who give them the "heads up" from phone conversations and private messages at yet other forums? The logistics of being able to keep track of all the information must leave these people laying awake in bed at night wide eyed trying to sorting things out. Oy:D

Heather, I find it all ridiculously laughable. I let my husband read this thread and what I typed and he burst out laughing and told me to start buying from the Gore Conservatories and other people over here. I guess maladjusted people who rule with an iron hand are pretty common place on the Internet according to him and he said that what people really think of them (which is going to be discussed in hushed whispers as well as out of perceived eye/earshot) won't affect them. You know, out of sight and out of mind. Aside from that, he told me it's probably best to buy from people with whom one interacts on a regular basis anyway and there's more than enough people selling orchids over here based on the looks of our house these days which has greened up quite nicely.
 
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.... in regards to Tom Kalina - Well you're right, he is a character! He does exist, are you visiting on weekends? I wonder if it's a show weekend? He does have a couple of smaller private growing areas, seperate from his main sale/growing area, he could have been tending to plants there. When Lauren & I went, he did say that any members of ST, if they were not SOF members also, could get any discounts he posts there, just mention it. It's unfortunate Lauren doesn't remember meeting him, laughing the whole time we were there & given a tour of those private growing areas.
Everyone has their own reasons for being a sponsor or a member on whatever forum(s) they choose. I think WE need to respect THEIR decisions, after all that's part of our 'freedom', isn't it?
 

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As far as where everybody does or doesn't register, appears there is one Admin at another site who evidently does care or there wouldn't be good folk out there claiming Petey contacted them when he spotted them registered here to ask why they had registered. Quite bold and assuming to be contacting people basically expecting to be told why someone registered at another site, wouldn't you agree? Wonder how many people rode the fence and came up with something they thought he'd want to hear to soothe his ruffled feathers? You have to admit it's beyond juvenile all factors considered when so many people must be either reading regularly or registered at both sites with a handful evidently phoning home to momma. I'm entitled to have no respect for this Admin- seems he does a bang up job keeping some very good people under his thumb which is really sad and I really do now have a better understanding of why so many people warned me about using private messages over there when they saw me register. Must admit I thought everyone was a little off their rockers to feel the need to warn me but in light of being hobbled at SOF for comments in this thread, I can now see why there were those who sincerely felt an obligation to enlighten me. To some it must be incredibly humiliating and degrading to be hobbled. But then the very act of hobbling someone is meant to be humiliating and degrading- it's a control thing but one should consider the source which in my opinion is some ding-a-ling on a cyber power trip. Good thing there are quite a few people who could care less if they are left out of his reindeer games who are registered at both sites regardless of whether they can post at both or not.

And I do laugh a lot and poke sport at just about everything because I'm pretty good natured and life's too short but you know something- a spade's a spade and no sense getting hung up trying to sugar coat what happened to me (or others) at this Admin's hand. Might as well be candid with no euphemisms.

The man over where we went can be quite personable and jokes back. I distinctly recall the private growing area over by them because I couldn't breathe and was wishing I had my inhaler with me. I also distinctly remember another private growing area that we walked through where I picked up a plant out of a large barrel that had been tossed wondering why it had been tossed and was joking about picking through their garbage after hours until I found out why so many plants were in the garbage. My payment was to a business when we went there not a person. I'm about as good with names I don't see on a regular basis as I am with getting to someplace I don't go on a regular basis- Not very. Like so many others, out of sight is out of mind. Also like so many others, I may forget specifics but I never forget how I was made to feel. Never.

Say, what exactly is in the outback forum here? Always was curious to know.
 

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