La Vingtaine and Glen Decker

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I have grown and bloomed Glen Decker, which is Jason Fischer x kovachii. La Vingtaine is a step earlier in evolution because it is Mem. Dick Clements x kovachii. The parents make a huge difference in these crosses in terms of size, roundness, and coloration. Yours look very nice.
 

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The blooms look very similar to me. I have two LaV that haven't bloomed yet and never had Glen Decker at all.
I like both flowers very much. The kov. influence is obvious, however, I don't really understand what exactly
the breeders were trying to improve with this type of breeding.
 

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Terryros, can you explain the earlier evolution of LaV please? I have two of them and they are very slow growers and
I don't understand why. I bought them from a very reputable Phrag dealer that is quite popular on ST and my growing
conditions are excellent in my gh. All my Phrags. from Tom are doing exceptionally well.
 
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Terryros, can you explain the earlier evolution of LaV please? I have two of them and they are very slow growers and
I don't understand why. I bought them from a very reputable Phrag dealer that is quite popular on ST and my growing
conditions are excellent in my gh. All my Phrags. from Tom are doing exceptionally well.
I only meant that Mem. Dick Clements in LaV is a generation earlier in breeding than Jason Fischer (which is Mem. Dick Clements crossed back to besseae). Both LaVingtaine and Glen Decker are 50% kovachii, but Glen Decker has a higher proportion of besseae genes and a lower proportion of sargentianum. You might expect that Glen Decker would be a little smaller and a little rounder than LaVingtaine.
 

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Thank you, terryros. Perhaps the besseae contribution to LaV is the slow growing problem in my warm/intermediate
gh. I'm going to do more research on the crosses I have with besseae in the mix.
 
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Good morning,
I have mainly phrags in my GH. I sort of specialize in them. I have no trouble growing kovachii or it's crosses. I have bloomed very many and even won a few awards. I have had 3 Glen deckers and killed them all. I am without any at the moment. The only one that I did bloom was quite unimpressive. On the other hand my LV grow great and very nice size with nice blooms simulair to the ones pictured. I just don't understand why I have such trouble with GD?
George
 

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Interesting discussion. I have two Fritz Schomburg 3N and both bloom well. Perhaps, awesomei, we should exchange
Phrags. ;>) or locations. The LaVs are maturing new growth finally, but soooo sloooow. I also have Barbara LeAnn 'Fox
Croft' and Geilgelstein ( reticulated X besseae var falvum) that are duds so far in my gh.
 

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