Hong´s Index

[Hakone]

Hong´s Index for assessment of cypripedium alba Form (copyright)

1/- Staminodes : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
2/- Labellum : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
3/- dorsal sepal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
4/- Petal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
5/- lateral sepal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.

to summarize = 100 P. = plants with albinism genes

My definition for Alba forms: a plant whose flowers can be green, yellow or white , or a combination all three , but devoid of any red pigmentation.




Example:

Cypripedium reginae


1/- Staminodes : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
2/- Labellum : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
3/- dorsal sepal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
4/- Petal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.
5/- lateral sepal : without red pigmentation = 20 P.

to summarize = 100 P. ----------> cypripedium reginae album

 

[dodidoki]

Dear Hakone!
Your attempt to define an alba form is a respectable and acceptable effort.
I only would like to help to do that:
I think we need to make a new definition: albino.
Albino is the specimen who has no any avability for making any pigment ( as you described)
Alba: who has albino flower but other parts have any pigmentation.
Albescens seu semi alba: flower has absolutely depigmented part (or parts) but has one or more parts has any pigmentation.
Pale form: all of flower parts has any red pigmentetion, but significantly less then normal.
Aureum: none of plant or flower has red pigmentation, but flower or any part has yellow pigmentation.

Eg: a negro man who has white penis (as "flower" called alba, but not albino).

 

[dodidoki]

Your index is wrong because it does not exclude yellow pigmentation.

 

[dodidoki]

Otherwise I think it needs to define a new term: subspecies:
same morphological signs but any little change in rates or colouration, geological appearance is near to each other. Eg: anitum/adductum. I think anitum is not valid species but ssp.

 

[Hakone]

Dear Hakone!
Your attempt to define an alba form is a respectable and acceptable effort.
I only would like to help to do that:
I think we need to make a new definition: albino.
Albino is the specimen who has no any avability for making any pigment ( as you described)
Alba: who has albino flower but other parts have any pigmentation.
Albescens seu semi alba: flower has absolutely depigmented part (or parts) but has one or more parts has any pigmentation.
Pale form: all of flower parts has any red pigmentetion, but significantly less then normal.
Aureum: none of plant or flower has red pigmentation, but flower or any part has yellow pigmentation.

Eg: a negro man who has white penis (as "flower" called alba, but not albino).

It is important to note the distinction between the alba forms and albinos.

Albinos : an albino in plants is completely lacking green chlorophyll pigment (analogous human: absence or defect of tyrosinase )

Eg: a negro man who has white penis . For me neither albino nor alba.

 

[dodidoki]

I don't think so: plants what have no chlorophylle at all are saprophyte or unavaible for life.

 

[Hakone]

Otherwise I think it needs to define a new term: subspecies:
same morphological signs but any little change in rates or colouration, geological appearance is near to each other. Eg: anitum/adductum. I think anitum is not valid species but ssp.

Are there geographical differente colouration alba form ?

 

[dodidoki]

Are there geographical differente colouration alba form ?

Nooo, alba, albino or any colour formation lives at the same place in the same population ( eg. micranthum forms). But ssp. lives in a well determinated area isolated from basic specie (eg. anitum), the basic specie.

 

[Hakone]

adductum /anitum : anitum is colored dark as adductum

 

[dodidoki]

But lives in separated area, so I think it is a ssp.

 

[Hakone]

maybe they grow together historical in a region

 

[NYEric]

Eg: a negro man who has white penis (as "flower" called alba, but not albino).

"Oh no he didn't!!"

 

[Paul Mc]

ROFL!!! I know, right?!! I'm trying to absorb this information and that's all I can focus on!!!! I'm doing double takes every time that comes up!

 

[SlipperKing]

Who hell is Hong? Is he the one with alba penis? LOL

 

[dodidoki]

"Oh no he didn't!!"

I wrote this idiot example because the sexual organ of orchid is the flower.

 

[Hakone]

The color of the genitalia does not matter. The gene (albinism) plays the cardinal role. A white genital brings out no white children.

 

[Hakone]

I wrote this idiot example because the sexual organ of orchid is the flower.

the paphiopedilum sexual organs are :

- Anther
- Stigma

http://www.google.de/imgres?q=paphi...r:3,s:300,i:13&tx=140&ty=103&biw=1280&bih=927