I bought two in-low-bud plants in Jan 2015 from Ten Shin at a show, but then they both aborted, which I expected. It was bareroot, and last day of the show. Both plants were replaced completely by new growths, which I thought was going to see flowers by now. Well, one is still growing, with beautiful leaves, and the other one just got black rot and I tossed it. Pythium I guess. It just happened in one day. I hate it. Anyways, Just in time, I got a plant list from Springwater and he had a flask of this same paph, and I took the plunge! I have usually been lucky to have slightly overgrown flasks in the past, but these are rather small, yet I managed to keep most of them (over 40!). I tossed teeny weeny few. Except for the largest seven seedligns, I'm not so sure about their future. They are so small, and I've never separated them out individually like this. Time will tell.