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    I am so hating you right now. I may not get to sleep. :eek: :p
     
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    So are the Japanese now growing Paphs purely in that yellow-stone shown in the pics?

    That bento box looked delicious.
     
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    Great site, thanks !!!! Jean
     
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    In the 90th meeting, Mr. Matsuoka presented some qualitative study of different media on root growth of P. micranthum, and the best one was bark:akadama:kanuma(the yellow-stone)=1:1:1. And Dr. Tanaka commented that kanuma isn't bad. So there are a couple of photos of plants in Kanuma, which you saw in the 93rd meeting.

    I can't get the details, but the ranking of the media in Mr. Matsuoka's P. micranthum experiment (9 month long) is:

    1. bark+akadama+kanuma=1:1:1
    2. bark+pumice+akadama
    3. Sugoine (some proprietary mix)
    4. 100% bark
    5. Cripto-moss (cedar/spruce strips) http://b-birds.com/ban/blog/?p=1518
    6. Sphag+Cripto-moss
    7. Ran-soil (some proprietary orchid mix)
    8. bark+pumice+pebbles

    He wondered that slightly acidic kanuma and akadama might be the reason of positive effect, and whether this might be applicable to the other brachy/parvy.
     
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    You're hired! :p
     
  7. Dec 30, 2013 #7
    So kanuma is yellow stone, but what is akadama?
     
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    Eric, Akadama is clay pellets. It eventually breaks down (unlike kanuma). I vaguely remember that when I was a kid, my parents and I were using 100% akadama for orchids (mostly Cym.), but I don't remember well (30 years ago). It is neutral to slightly acidic, but I think it is not as acidic as kanuma. So it is more general purpose material for a wide range of plants than acidic kanuma. Also, akadama retains water longer than kanuma. There are also yaki-akadama (baked akadama), which doesn't break down as easily as the normal akadama. I haven't personally seen akadama in the US, but from the description of other people, I have a feeling that akadama in the US and Europe may be the baked kind.

    Here is some info:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akadama
    It says "It is surface mined, immediately sifted and bagged", but this is not correct. The mined clay/loam gets dried for a while, then crashed into smaller pieces, then sifted to difference sizes.
     
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    Hmmm, to the Bonsai store in Chinatown this weekend...:D Thanks for the info.
     
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    Thanks for the link. A pleasant way to get through my work day for sure.
    I saw that thaianum album. Does anyone have any better photos of it?
     
  11. Dec 31, 2013 #11
    Thanks Naoki. Is akadama the same as aliflor? Eric- how was the store? Haven't been there in ages. Had wanted to go this vacation, but chemo knocked me out the first few days.
     
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    I am going Friday night or Saturday early to the Orchid store. There is a Bonsai place further down Centre St. below Canal.
     
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    I'm not sure how aliflor compares to akadama. But I'm guessing that aliflor is much harder (rock like) than akadama. I hope you are feeling better now, Eric.
     
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    Thanks...feeling fine now. Eric- the one further down is on Mulberry and sells pots. Or are you talking about that small place between mulberry and Mott just above the park? I love that orchid store on Centre near Grand.
     
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    Cool, a way to see hybrids I don't know yet. thanks.
     
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    I hope "canned whale" was mistranslated...
     
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    Thanks for sharing.
     

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