PaphMadMan
phytomanic
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Thank you all for your input. I posted the question to highlight the problem of species/nat hybrid/artificial hybrid being more widespread than just in the cochlo group which seems to get all the bad publicity, while there is a bigger problem in the most extensively hybridized group, which would call into question nearly every name from Maudiae onwards:evil::rollhappy:
I would add that even a "pure" species, traceable back to specific well documented and characterized collected plants, could be unrecognizable after a few generations of selective breeding. And in virtually all cases we have only the most recent grower's word for what it should be.