I
Ice
Guest
bellatulum x leucochilum
first bloom
photo by yang-ji
thanks
first bloom
photo by yang-ji
thanks
Help Support Slippertalk Orchid Forum:
D
Dido
Guest
Nearly looks like pure species.
But a great flower
But a great flower
D
Dido
Guest
No problem only thought that it looks like that, maybe we see from time to time crosses which are sold as pure kinds. This is what I thought when I look at this pic
I was being very sarcastic, sorry. It is a big problem in my mind.
While I love the flowers I cringe every time I see hybrids like this as it will probable end up being sold (or worse, used as a parent) as a species. Bring on genetic testing which can sort out these 'pseudo-species'. This is NO reflection on ICE.
C
Cheyenne
Guest
I totally agree....... It looks very close to true species...... Either one actually. A few more like this and we will see plants being sold as bellatulum var. Leucochilum because you get bellatulum spots and a white pouch. Very lovly flower though. Just keep the right tag in it please.
SlipperFan
Addicted
What is the purpose of making this hybrid? A stronger stem?
Stone
Well-Known Member
COULDN'T.......... AGREE.......... MORE.
Seems to me that taxonomic designations are so screwed up that it's very
hard to be absolutely sure what almost any orchid is/was/will be. That's
for the taxonomists to decide. In the meantime, I just love this flower.
hard to be absolutely sure what almost any orchid is/was/will be. That's
for the taxonomists to decide. In the meantime, I just love this flower.
Trithor
Chico (..... the clown)
Nice bloom. I agree with the taxonomic concerns raised above, but there is not too much that can be done about it now. I am a bit confused why leuco would have been used as opposed to godefroyae, as the white pouch is unlikely to have come through in the progeny?
SlipperKing
Madd Virologist
Leuco could be a much larger flower then a godefroyae, maybe size then?
This cross has been make a million yrs ago and re-made over and over no fear here anymore from a Paph S. Gratrix
This cross has been make a million yrs ago and re-made over and over no fear here anymore from a Paph S. Gratrix
SK, would you mind explaining the reference to Paph. S. Gratrix? I don't
understand the post and feel there's something to learn about crosses.
I agree about genetic testing, but might the cost be prohibitive?
understand the post and feel there's something to learn about crosses.
I agree about genetic testing, but might the cost be prohibitive?
Trithor
Chico (..... the clown)
S Gratrix is bellatulum x godefroyae
leucochilum is considered to be a variety of godefroyae, distinguished by it having a white pouch (broad strokes), so as far as registration goes,. leuco x bel is also S Gratrix, of which there are countless examples in greenhouses around the world as it has been made and remade so many times.
There are other differences between leuco and godefroyae, but getting into that discussion is a minefield I would rather leave to the experts.
SlipperKing
Madd Virologist
Well said Tri dude!
I agree!!!
Trithor
Chico (..... the clown)
Thank you, kind sir!:rollhappy:
B
busypotter
Guest
Beautiful flower, great traits
Thank you, Trithor. I can understand your explanation. I probably couldn't
follow an "expert". I have a dear friend who has a PhD in botany and he's
given up following the various directions of orchid taxonomy.
follow an "expert". I have a dear friend who has a PhD in botany and he's
given up following the various directions of orchid taxonomy.
papheteer
Well-Known Member
I'd love to have that flower!
NYEric
Well-Known Member
yeah, this is another one that is going to blur "true" species lines.
