bob i am not a hating guy and you have your opinion,i do not have a plant of norito hasagawa,so when i saw this plant i bought it,i do like it a lot other why's i suppose i would of not bought it,paph norito hasagawa is on my want list and when i finally get one i will compare it.Also bob i have read a lot of your threads and posts and i know you are a very knowledgeble when comes to paphs,and after deep consideration and thought(which hurt,trust me the old grey matter aint what it once was)i'm not listening to you(im stood with my fingers in my ears)only joking.I actually do like the less round form of the flower,i'll take a better pic of it today,because the colour is really nice.