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I will update my original post to get that information in. Do you think there were other RHS awards for Bob Betts?

I was hoping that someone could access that old information. I am going to edit my original post to update the information as you have found. I will cite your good work.

It was a great idea, Ray, just a decade or two too late!

It would be fun to know the origin of ‘White Lightning’! Someone knows. It may be too late to track down the history of the older cultivars in terms of who created them, who exhibited them, who cloned them, etc.

NOTE: I have updated this post as I hear about new information from other forum members, including: NEslipper I was recently able to purchase a mericlone (Agdia-strip negative) of Cattleya Bob Betts ‘Tacoma’ from Chadwicks. There were also Slippertalk posts about Bob Betts cultivars ‘White...

I understand about the Hydrangeas!

I think that might be safest way but that new growth is really going to be dangling out there!

The posterior reflexing definitely reduces the measured horizontal NS. The flower has good substance and clearly looks tetraploid. I think Leslie’s comment “super trianae” makes sense. I keep Frans Hais for this reason.

I am growing Phrags in 100% Hydroton and it is working. With any medium, you have to get the watering correct. You need a lot of air space for the roots (which LECA will do) but you can’t have the roots dry out excessively. I water every 5 days most of the year but decrease to every 8 days for...

I agree. Not enough leaves, the leaf color is too yellowish. I also have abandoned rock wool as a medium for all my orchids. I think when you unpot you may find that the root system is not in good shape.

I was going to ask you when yours had recently bloomed and here it is. What is the horizontal spread of the biggest flower? A huge plant, again with a challenging repotting coming up. I think your and my flowers are very similar. Extremely round and closed with Horace really coming through in...

Very healthy, Deb, but a tricky repotting coming up! I think it takes a larger plant with multiple growths and great roots that have been undisturbed for more than one growth cycle to get the largest flowers. The 2014 87 point CCM had 16 flowers on 6 spikes and the 2014 86 point plant had 26...

I can’t imagine how you are going to divide into individual plants with the totally enmeshed root system!

Portia is a very old primary hybrid, registered in 1897 by RHS. I think the strong coerulea color of bowringiana comes through in Portia and is maintained in Big Ben.

David, flower seems large in the photo. What is the NS horizontal? Leslie gave a hint with trianae that our focus on round and closed for Cattleya seedlings might not be the only approach. Maybe some color forms or large size are best with configurations not round and closed. Three large flowers...

Tetraploidy seems clear in many of those leaves. What is your guess about how long until a first one blooms?

Excellent details, David.

Thank you, David. When you use additional light in the winter, what day length do you choose? In the winter when you keep your minimum temp to 15C/60F what maximum temp are you getting? Could you tell your potting medium for most Cattleyas and how you water and feed, please?

David, does your greenhouse get only natural light and natural day lengths of Toronto? When you say intermediate conditions for the labiata, what does that mean for peak winter and summer temperatures (max, min, and average if you have them)? We know you are an outstanding grower!

Deb, that really is a nice plant. A clear cut coerulea with a very long track record. Only three species (mossiae 50%, labiata 25%, and Guar. bowringiana 25%). The bowringiana now makes Big Ben a Cattlianthe (usually abbreviated Ctt.) instead of Cattleya. The 85 point CCM for this plant had 60...