Phrag hirtzii

Rick · Jun 9, 2013

Back in February I swapped a pot of peacei for this division of hirtzii. It originally came from Ecuagenera.

I think this was a great swap.

Big flower, here compared to longifolium.

Some say this is just a variety of longifolium, but these are very different plants.

longifolium is a huge plant in comparison

SlipperFan · Jun 9, 2013

You are very lucky, Rick! I've been looking for a hirtzii for a long time. This is a nice one. Not like I remembered -- but I do remember the very twisty petals.

eggshells · Jun 9, 2013

Very nice and cute.

eaborne · Jun 9, 2013

Thanks for the comparison. I just got a hirtzii from Ecuagenera and can't wait for it to bloom!

phrag guy · Jun 10, 2013

very nice,great to see

SlipperKing · Jun 10, 2013

Nice Rick but I can see boissierianum bleeding through. Is there any discussion on the makeup of this species?

Susie11 · Jun 10, 2013

Nice one.

NYEric · Jun 10, 2013

Definitely not the same as longifolium. Good acquisition, they are not common at all!

Chuck · Jun 10, 2013

Very nice example.

Chuck

dodidoki · Jun 10, 2013

I just can say: wow! Very nice.

Ditto · Jun 10, 2013

Nice !!

phraggy · Jun 11, 2013

Lovely. Haven't seen one for sale in years.

Ed

NYEric · Jun 11, 2013

:ninja: Pssst, I know a guy in Canada if you want to divide. :wink:

eggshells · Jun 11, 2013

NYEric said:
:ninja: Pssst, I know a guy in Canada if you want to divide. :wink:

Are you referring to me Eric? If so, please do tell me the details.

Rick · Jun 11, 2013

SlipperKing said:
Nice Rick but I can see boissierianum bleeding through. Is there any discussion on the makeup of this species?

I don't think I can add much intelegent debate to that as to whether this is a natural hybrid or distinct species.

My old McCook reprint says she was sceptical at first, but after seeing them in the proximatey of longifolium, and being as distinctly different as shown above, she felt its a distinct species.

Tom Kalina probably knows much more about this species.

The Orchid Boy · Jun 12, 2013

Very nice!

eteson · Jun 12, 2013

SlipperKing said:
Nice Rick but I can see boissierianum bleeding through

I agree with you, I can see some degree of hybridation in this particular one... seems to me not a pure hirtzii...

This one is a pure hirtzii from the South of Colombia:

eggshells · Jun 12, 2013

Is that yours Eliseo? Very handsome plant.

SlipperKing · Jun 12, 2013

So Eliseo,
Does boissierianum grow near colonies of hirtizii and Rick's plant be a result of inter-breeding?

eteson · Jun 12, 2013

SlipperKing said:
So Eliseo,
Does boissierianum grow near colonies of hirtizii and Rick's plant be a result of inter-breeding?

I have never seen boissierianum in the wild. It is present (at least theoretically) in the southern part of Ecuador and Perú while the hirtzii is preset in the northern part of Ecuador and Southern part of Colombia. The plant that I am showing was collected close to the Ecuador-Colombia border.

I am not sure about natural inter-breeding between both species in the wild, but I have found that it is frequent in our greenhouses.

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